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Opihikaobob Posted - 12/25/2014 : 10:32:29
Seems like a Christmas spoiler timed on Christmas day, at least that's how I see it. The article comes from today's Tribune , where it also adds that they will be drilling 24/7 sometime in January regardless of the County Council's ban on drilling at night passed in 2012.
They claim that a decrease in production on one of their 5 operating production wells necessitates this to bring the mega watts back up to 38.
Same ole same ole for the new year, that would be par for the course for a badly managed Ormat / Halliburton project that invariably has
uncontrolled hazardous releases , that somehow never are considered hazardous,and,remarkably I might add, they are able to measure surface emissions accurately with hand held devices , or on site fixed air monitors,even though they lost power and had no backup generators of their own - a power plant without back up emergency generators for on site emergency monitoring equipment? How amazing, to be able to do this monitoring even in the midst of hurricane force winds or downgraded hurricanes force winds,even when they are short on staff for a well advertised (the hurricanes approach was broadcast for what seemed like weeks before it's arrival) hurricane/tropical storm.
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lavalava Posted - 06/12/2015 : 09:06:04
Really Gypsy? You are concerned about one new well? What about the new PLANT?!?! They will need to drill several new wells...
leilanidude Posted - 06/12/2015 : 07:41:33
I doubt that it is in production this quickly. They have to do all kine work at the wellhead for safety reasons and install new piping from the actual plant to the well, etc., so my guess would be August if not later?

There is no way to know why the old one became less productive, but geothermal wells exhibit this kind of production loss all over the world. Twenty years is a really good one. The ground can shift way down there, the water (steam) can move to a different area, know one really knows the exact reason.

gypsy69 Posted - 06/11/2015 : 19:12:34
Would like to re-bump this thread in hopes someone knew the latest on the new well that has been drilled by puna geothermal. Is the new well as productive as the old faithful well that started losing production for what ever reason?. Anyone know why the old well started drying up or losing production in the first place? The drilling of this new well was definitely the quietest I can remember. So now what becomes of the old well? Does it become a re-injection well, or can it still be used for any kind of production in the future?. Thanks in advance to any good updates.
ironyak Posted - 01/21/2015 : 09:53:45
Originally posted by pahoated
Iceland has one site that isn't closed cycle, it is open cycle. That brine water is not injected back in the ground and is allowed to fill pools, like this one:
http://www.trendy4cast.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/blue-lagoon-iceland-2.jpg

The geothermal plant is in the background and the resort is a result of this brine water pool. This same water is what Petricci and crew are crying hysterically is toxic poison being released on the face of the Earth. Nowhere else on this planet is there this delusion. That brine is toxic, if you drink it. It has high levels of arsenic, sulfur, other chemicals that are dangerous if you drink it in large quantities. People don't go to health spas to drink the bathing mineral water.


Given that you've been very vocal on this topic for many years, perhaps you should have the facts straight by now. The water provided by the Svartsengi geothermal station to the Blue Lagoon spa lacks heavy metals, is cycled through the spa every 40 hours, and is a mix of an unique geothermal brine with sea water and is unlike any other geothermal fluid.

http://www.bluelagoon.com/files/research-studies/blue-lagoon-research/1996-solveig-petursdottir-fems-microbiol-ecol.pdf
"Although geothermal brines are used in several places for energy production, they are usually of much higher temperature and/or salinity and often contain high concentrations of toxic compounds like heavy metals. In those cases where cooling ponds are formed they are usually saturated with salt and are therefore totally different from the Blue Lagoon.

Although many hot springs are saturated with silica. they are much lower in salt and the amount of precipitate formed is much less than in the Blue Lagoon. It therefore appears that this temperature and salinity range. the short retention time, and especially the high silica precipitation, form a unique combination which seems to be found nowhere else."

This is a well in Iceland. That is all there is to it, just a casing pipe coming out of the ground, about 8-inches diameter. Iceland is more progressive, so they have put containment domes around the well head pipe, and there is a vent there. That is just water vapor, not smoke.

This well is at Hellisheidi ~15 miles from Reykjavik and is emitting not just water vapor.

http://www.geographical.co.uk/nature/energy/item/140-a-heated-debate
"A recent study linked Hellisheidi’s H2S emissions with the increased incidence of asthma among the residents of greater Reykjavik, and strict new regulations established by the Icelandic government in 2010, have forced the geothermal industry to slash H2S emissions from its plants or face closure."
lavalava Posted - 01/20/2015 : 21:04:05
The hot air comes from roxanne...
Shonuff Posted - 01/20/2015 : 12:27:54
quote:
Originally posted by Justin

I have a question regarding gas measurements. How would the County (or Ormat, or whomever) accurately measure the chemicals near the plant without that reading being influenced from the "normal" air that exists because of the nearby active volcano. In other words, if there are 100 ppm of SO2 1 mile from the plant, is that because of the plant or because of Kilauea? It would seem you'd need measurements at a number of various places between Pu'u O'o and the plant to try to distinguish the confounding variables.

The gas in question is H2S, not SO2
ironyak Posted - 01/20/2015 : 09:42:42
pahoated - would you mind explaining the differences between traditional geothermal technology used in Iceland, such as the Svartsengi power station that provides the water for the Blue Lagoon Spa, and the geothermal techniques used here by PGV and why the resulting fluids might be different?
leilanidude Posted - 01/20/2015 : 06:54:34
http://deepgreenresistance.org/en/who-we-are/guiding-principles-of-deep-green-resistance

I was curious, so discovered a little more about "Deep Green Resistance". This is not a cute little group of people.

From the above page, their own words:

When civilization ends, the living world will rejoice. We must be biophilic people in order to survive. Those of us who have forgotten how must learn again to live with the land and air and water and creatures around us in communities built on respect and thanksgiving. We welcome this future.

Deep Green Resistance is a radical feminist organization. Men as a class are waging a war against women. Rape, battering, incest, prostitution, pornography, poverty, and gynocide are both the main weapons in this war and the conditions that create the sex-class women. Gender is not natural, not a choice, and not a feeling: it is the structure of women’s oppression. Attempts to create more “choices” within the sex-caste system only serve to reinforce the brutal realities of male power. As radicals, we intend to dismantle gender and the entire system of patriarchy which it embodies. The freedom of women as a class cannot be separated from the resistance to the dominant culture as a whole.


Poke around some more on their site and you get things like this:

Don’t Talk About…

Your involvement or someone else’s involvement with an underground group.
Your or someone else’s desire to get involved with such a group.
Your or someone else’s participation in illegal action.
Someone else’s advocacy for such actions.
Your or someone else’s plans for a future illegal action.
Don’t ask others if they are a member of an underground group.
Don’t talk about illegal actions in terms of specific times, people, places, etc.
RJHampton Posted - 01/20/2015 : 00:00:14
It's true.

The Truth is a Dangerous explosive.
TomK Posted - 01/19/2015 : 23:29:51
RJ Hampton is a "she", ran for a seat in the recent county council elections, and have no idea if the rumour of her arrest is true or not.
Kiana Posted - 01/19/2015 : 23:21:02
Who is RJ Hampton? Was he arrested at the meeting?
lavalava Posted - 01/19/2015 : 21:55:16
quote:
Originally posted by norris

For those not on the Puna Pono Alliance email list, there's a call to show up to PGV's Pahoa meeting Monday evening to show solidarity for neighbors who want PGV to follow the night-time drilling ban.

What: Puna Geothermal Venture (PGV) community meeting
When: January 19, @ 6:30pm.
Where: Pahoa High School Cafeteria.
Why: PGV plans to drill without following the county ordinance that prohibits drilling between 7 PM and 7 AM

Full details: http://deepgreenresistancehawaii.org/2015/01/18/oppose-geothermal-night-time-drilling/



Thanks for the heads up. Meeting was cancelled because RJ Hampton got arrested.
PunaMauka2 Posted - 01/18/2015 : 18:06:27
quote:
Originally posted by Opihikaobob

quote:
Originally posted by PunaMauka2

...queue "Third Stone From The Sun", J. Hendrix.


LOL!



:D
norris Posted - 01/18/2015 : 17:56:55
For those not on the Puna Pono Alliance email list, there's a call to show up to PGV's Pahoa meeting Monday evening to show solidarity for neighbors who want PGV to follow the night-time drilling ban.

What: Puna Geothermal Venture (PGV) community meeting
When: January 19, @ 6:30pm.
Where: Pahoa High School Cafeteria.
Why: PGV plans to drill without following the county ordinance that prohibits drilling between 7 PM and 7 AM

Full details: http://deepgreenresistancehawaii.org/2015/01/18/oppose-geothermal-night-time-drilling/
Opihikaobob Posted - 01/18/2015 : 10:28:21
quote:
Originally posted by PunaMauka2

...queue "Third Stone From The Sun", J. Hendrix.


LOL!

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