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Royall
Kamaaina

USA
977 Posts

Posted - 10/17/2006 :  13:04:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When I got to the house this morning and started to get things organized for the rocking crew, I found a leak in the front of the house just over the front windows. I’m glad the heavy rain hit now rather than after the rock was up! Also a good portion of our cinder driveway was washed out onto 13th and that mixed with what was coming down 13th to the low spot by the stop sign. Just bare rock on 13th now and a small canyon down the side of the driveway. About the only cinder left in the middle it the 1” to 2” stuff. I count my lucky stars that that is the extent of our suffering due to the last 2 days. Our hearts go out to those who have had greater grief to endure.

Royall

What goes around comes around!

Edited by - Royall on 10/17/2006 13:06:51
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Carey
Punatic

3158 Posts

Posted - 10/17/2006 :  16:52:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just checked our rainguage, it goes up to 210 centimeters (which is above the 8 inch mark) & it was filled over that, to what I would gues was close to 9 inches (it was empty yesterday, and just under overflow today!) not a puddle in the yard, or around the neighborhood this morning....HOW??
Aloha, Carey

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jdirgo
Punatic

USA
1115 Posts

Posted - 10/17/2006 :  17:27:05  Show Profile  Visit jdirgo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Porous lava is a great thing, isn't it?

John Dirgo, RA, ABR, e-PRO
Island Trust Properties, LLC
808-987-9243 cell
http://www.hawaiirealproperty.com
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jm minica
Da Kine

USA
251 Posts

Posted - 10/17/2006 :  17:57:27  Show Profile  Send jm minica a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
We must be lightning magnets, because we got hammered again! This time two of our gate columns got hit, the transformer in front of our house got hit again, twice, and our house got hit sending a surge of electricity through one of the curcuits that lit up some of the lights for a second and tripped the gfi outlets.Lightning was striking so close to our house and so frequently that it felt like an earthquake. On the upside, we got about 4000 gallons in our catchment tank over night! It was about half full yesterday, and now it's full(10,000 gallon tank). It was pretty amazing to watch, but so loud that it was painful.
Aloha,
Mark


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Hazen
Da Kine

157 Posts

Posted - 10/17/2006 :  19:32:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's a repost of an email i sent out to some friends this morning, soon after arriving home. It's written informally, but i feel it captures my night well.

The friend Pam Lamont went to help last night was me. I owe her many thanks for being a great friend. How many people are out of bed and in their car during monsoon-like weather at midnight with out a second thought. I got help before she arrived, though i should have taken her advice and gone to her spare bedroom.

Enjoy.


In the theme of "SIGNS OF PORTENDING DOOM!" we had some amazing storms last night. Everyone was so concerned about our earthquake. This storm : 6" of H20/hour. That's a foot every 2 hours. Whoosh. Headlights go about 10' into the gloom, and wipers on max do little.

I had been at my client's house, waiting for the rain to abate so i could enter my car. I opted for beers until about 11pm. As i was driving home, muddled and tired the radio announced flash flood warnings and other doomsuch for people clearly less invincible than mineself. Just as the robotic voice prattled "Don't drown, turn around" a large bolt of lightning struck a transformer adjacent to me, a huge flash of purplish light ensues and I hear shrapnel raining onto my roof. Wow. Bah, i'm still invincible right? I've got my invincible hat on. So i continue driving home. Hunched over navigation is punctuated by huge puddles and the resulting fountains of water. I keep on going. I've been this way many times and never been stopped yet, i laugh in exhiliration. Then my headlight turn brown, weird i think. Then i see leaves floating above them. In a moment of divine composition I think, "Whoops." My car starts to sound like an outboard. I think, well, it's ony the deep spot, i'll just floor it and get through. At this point a 2 foot wave washes into my door, Crap. I try to back out... and the car dies. YES! I realize my feet are wet, then my ankles, then I notice gum wrappers floating around my shins. Dam*! At least Steely Dan is still cranking through the radio. I knew I hated them before, now I really hate them. I start calling friends realizing none of them own trucks, explaining that like my previous relationships based upon owning "the Drill", perhaps, my friends only want me for "the Truck".

Luckily, some clueless ditz drives up, tries to drive past me, ignoring the waving arms and flashing light. She insists that she can get through. I am wading in waste deep water, soaked. She backs up and I use the two tie down rachets, tow strap, and 100' of rope I luckily had in my car to get towed out. YEAH! Unfortunately, my CD's and camera got soaked, but the car is just flooded, a little shop-vac love and all will be good.

So I try a different route to my house. Nope, I find myself wading up to my armpits three times. Finally i try the really obscure back route. I find myself facing a raging river carrying trees through my neighbors lot. I can imagine my driveway 1/2 mile ahead. Well, it's 1:30 AM gotta try it. Blub, blub, blub, gurgle. Nope stuck again. Well, alright. I'll just throw everything into my wet bag ( i had my scuba stuff with me), and hump it into the darkness, I'm already soaked how bad could it be. I make it up to my neck and decide that the 2 foot standing wave of brown i see illuminated in flashes of lightning looks a little intimidating. I'd end up in the blackness, washed who knows how far into the jungle, probably bludgeoned, undoubtably punctured clinging to a drowned pig, at 2AM with no one knowing where I am. I imagine the tingling I feel through the water with each flash of lightning. With chagrine i realize that I have cell service, though no one could get to me anyway, i'm sure that the water is now much higher and impassable. I'm stranded 1/2 mile from my bed. My car is flooded up past the seat cushions. I contemplate who i should call. I think of Chris. Have i mentioned that I am laughing and enjoying myself. This is why i live here. Sucks about my car, but eh. I'm most bummed that I won't be able to go see Lina or drive Rocky around. Damn, too bad it's 4am in San Diego, i'd really love to call Chris right now. So i strike off, laughing and splashing in puddles.

Luckily I run into someone pulling chickens out of the road. He's wary, but warms up. Eddy is a neighbor, never met him. He's living here, takes care of the 100 fighting cocks his brother is breeding here. There is something beautiful about the sight of hundreds of roosters illuminated by lightning. All standing atop their little teepee-like hutches. I see another drowned chicken float by. Eddy lives in a closet sized shack. We both realize there is no place else for me to go. I am soaked, we're not going to share his bed. We decide on the tool shed. I bed down on some cardboard and smile. I'll strike out at dawn.

Roosters can be bothersome creatures. For, instance when one is hungover, slumbering peacefully and your neighbor's rooster decides to perch on your windowsill and crank out a 4am revelry, you think "I feel like chicken tonight." Amazingly, 100 roosters proclaiming forelornly, beating the rain off, and wondering what the future holds is an amazingly beautiful thing. Poor guys so proud in their plummage, tied to a couple pieces of tin roofing. Spaced like tomatoes, constantly enflamed by the insolent proximity of their mortal enemies placed just out of reach. One wonders if they aren't as excited by the proposition of an exhibition ending in a battle to the death as their inhuman captors. Betting in pidgin and phillipino. I hear one monster clearly hidden in the back of the lot. Deeper and throatier than the others, i imagine him 4 feet tall, proud and fearless like his carnivorous ancestors. I watch out he door, catching glimpses of roosters in the flashes of lightning, looking like crucifixes perched upon tombstones.

Dawn arrives.

I thank Eddy, promise him a carton of menthols, and a twelve-pack. Good ole' Eddy. He looks upset by all the dead hens.

I hump it down to my vehicle, with its nice scum line left around the window. Like line in a dingy bathtub. I get in. I turn the key. Rowr. Rowr-rowwwwrrr. Whoosh, plop. 15 gallons of water and flotsam comes out of the exhaust pipe. I think, geez if i'd collected that I could calculate teh volume of, my exhaust train.... Rowr-rumna-rumna-rumna. God i'm wet and cold. It catches!... and dies. I try again, battery seems pretty low. She catches. God i love this car.

I rev the motor watching the stream of water and plume of steam fill the surrounding acres. I look forward eyeing the stream in front of me. I notice a BBQ stuck a few hundred feet int the woods. A big-wheels, a 15 gallon propane tank. Trees on their sides. I put it in gear, pause, thinking about evolution and fighting cocks, eye the flooded road and think, how deep could it be....?





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Punamom
Da Kine

USA
308 Posts

Posted - 10/18/2006 :  00:16:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

Whats next? Locust?

Seriously, not much damage from flooding here but did see some roads in HPP with plenty cinder runoff, and a BIG puddle in front of Cash N Carry's parking lot. Lost power 4-5 times, maybe more but we fell asleep and woke up to sunshine...



Hi Cat,
Did you hear there's an epidemic of ukus.
(With the keiki crowd anyway) So will just call that "locust like": so then what IS next?
Sorry we missed your party :( soommme people are soooooo ditzy !!!!!!!

Great story Hazen my sister on 38th st in Orchidland lost her car to a flash flood too.But waded back home in waist high water.Some nice annoymous person pulled her car out.Go aloha! It still has not started yet will give it a few days.It was under water all night!


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Royall
Kamaaina

USA
977 Posts

Posted - 10/18/2006 :  05:44:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If your car was under water you shouldn’t try to start it until you drain all the fluids IE your engine, transmission, front and rear differentials, and at least check the Power steering fluid. If you don’t you could damage the engine due to hydro-lock (water in the combustion chamber bending the rods), main and crank bearings(lack of lubrication). Water in an automatic trans will cause the clutch material to delaminate from the steel backing and water in the other components mentioned can cause pitted bearings shortening the life considerably. Water in the interior means you will have water logged electronics that will soon quit functioning due to corrosion starting as soon as they start drying out. You should contact your insurance carrier as soon as possible to get the accident documented. Some insurance companies will cover the repairs. Most times they will total the car, especially if the water was brackish.

Royall

What goes around comes around!

Edited by - Royall on 10/18/2006 05:45:41
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mella l
Punatic

USA
2491 Posts

Posted - 10/18/2006 :  10:30:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hazen for Punatic Frogman of the year Waterman Award! LOL Great story and thanks for sharing it and the heads up. Never saw brown headlights before either! ROTF

mella l
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Rob Tucker
Kama'aina

4156 Posts

Posted - 10/18/2006 :  10:34:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Quite a story. I knew there were some estreme situations going on that night. Glad you made it through the night.

Aloha!

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Kapohocat
Punatic

USA
2796 Posts

Posted - 10/18/2006 :  11:20:32  Show Profile  Visit Kapohocat's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think ukus worse kine than locust!


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Keith
malihini

USA
64 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2006 :  06:18:57  Show Profile  Send Keith a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
It looks like a lot of people bands together in Hawaii when mother let you know who is in charge.
How often do you get storms like this one on the east side? From what I read some of the preparedness that one can do are.

1. high ground, post and pier
2. adequate drainage, ground preparation to protect from erosion.
3. keep calm and make sure you have supplies to hold out for a couple of days

Keith
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HADave
Kamaaina

USA
650 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2006 :  07:55:24  Show Profile  Visit HADave's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Do any of the news stations transmit a live streaming doppler radar.....?

HADave

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pslamont
Punatic

USA
2157 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2006 :  08:39:25  Show Profile  Send pslamont a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Hazen was Indiana Jones in a previous life....

Just another day in P A R A D I S E !!
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HADave
Kamaaina

USA
650 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2006 :  16:41:56  Show Profile  Visit HADave's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hazen you ought to pick up one of these Gibbs, Aquada.....amphibiousmobiles

http://www.aquada.co.uk/

Not sure if your buddy Eddie would be impressed but it might get you home sooner and let poor Pam worry a little less about you....hahaha You dream some pretty wild stuff..loved the mental pic of you body surfing through the jungle on a wiley pig had us rolling on the floor after that....

Aloha HADave

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Carey
Punatic

3158 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2006 :  16:52:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dave, NOAA is changing formats, the new Short Wave IR2 loop for Hawaii is
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/west/hi/loop-ir2.html
the Water Vapor IR3 Loop is
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/west/hi/loop-wv.html
the Visible Imagery loop is
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/west/hi/loop-vis.html
and the old GOES channel 4 Central Pacific loop is
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/cpac-ir4-loop.html
I do not know if they have any close range dobbler, what with the mountains so close to the airports (most of the dobbler systems I know of are close to and in association with an airport. Maybe someone else knows this for sure.
Aloha, Carey
ADDED TO LIST - Doppler radar from KITV:
http://www.thehawaiichannel.com/wxmap/4550575/detail.html



Edited by - Carey on 10/19/2006 21:25:06
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