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terracore
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Posted - 10/25/2016 :  16:01:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/25/health/banana-extinction/?iid=ob_homepage_deskrecommended_pool

Above article references the title of this post.

Lee M-S
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Posted - 10/25/2016 :  17:40:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I read it, monocropped Cavendish banana are at risk, not all bananas everywhere going extinct.

This would affect people who buy bananas at the supermarket, probably not home growers.

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punaticbychoice
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Posted - 10/25/2016 :  20:36:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And the Cavendish bananas even at their best, are inferior to our local varieties, at least in my experience and opinion.
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terracore
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Posted - 10/26/2016 :  15:56:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Agreed!

Though, with our bananas we're fighting the bunchy top virus.
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Lee M-S
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USA
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Posted - 10/27/2016 :  16:35:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
stupid bumchy top, we've got it, too.

and stupid flood control, had to type this twice.

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ElysianWort
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Posted - 10/28/2016 :  18:43:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Worry not. There will be strong bananas to fight the diseases and live on. If the mainstream ones like the Cavendish die out, a new one will take it's place. I think this has already happened with bananas in the past.
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Midnight Rambler
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USA
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Posted - 10/29/2016 :  16:29:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ElysianWort

Worry not. There will be strong bananas to fight the diseases and live on. If the mainstream ones like the Cavendish die out, a new one will take it's place. I think this has already happened with bananas in the past.


Yep, the reason we have the Cavendish in the first place is that the previous dominant variety, the Gros Michel (which by all accounts tasted much better), was nearly wiped out in the 1950s by Panama disease. Most Hawaiian varieties are also susceptible to that, btw (including apple bananas).
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robguz
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Posted - 10/30/2016 :  14:42:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It does impact far more than cavendish types and is considered potentially much more dire than race 1, which is in Hawaii. The bigger problem is that it is already in many places in the world where people depend on bananas for their immediate survival. There is also no reason to think that any of the extremely rare Hawaiian bananas would be immune to tropical race 4. Half of those have already gone extinct in the past century with our many existing banana diseases. It's very likely that all currently cultivated varieties in Hawaii can get bunchy top. Ultimately if we want to preserve the genetic diversity in existing cultivars it's going to mean keeping them going by inserting genes, likely from other bananas, that can allow them to survive bunchy top, various strains of Panama Disease, sigatoka, etc. Unfortunately scientific ignorance and fear is not only going to doom many cultivars, but also many people who will be impacted by either starvation or worse nutrition by relying on less healthy foods for their calories. As is, there are places in the world where average banana/plantain consumption is 4 or more pounds per day!
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Kelena
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USA
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Posted - 07/31/2019 :  07:55:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Two of my banana plants that have been here since I bought the home now have bunchy top virus. I had a man bring them down. Am I supposed to notify someone? Turn myself in? Torch the patio?
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rainyjim
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Posted - 07/31/2019 :  08:28:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If I recall youíre in HPP right?

Itís known to be in Puna already so no need call.

If any more shoots pop up from the same root mat that you had cut down they will also have BBTV. You can dig up the roots or you could drill a hole in the roots and squirt some systemic herbicide in to kill it - anything with 2,4-D as an ingredient should work.
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PaulW
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Posted - 07/31/2019 :  10:00:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I thought science wasn't welcome on the Big Island. Or is it only when there's something in it for me?
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geochem
Kamaaina

USA
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Posted - 07/31/2019 :  11:26:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
actually, it's only welcome when you can blame it for something adverse...
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Obie
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USA
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Posted - 07/31/2019 :  16:25:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I see evidence that a gmo banana plant is viable.

University of Hawaii research .
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BillyB
Da Kine

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Posted - 07/31/2019 :  18:32:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
" Yes we have no bananas " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hF05ik5TFQ


The reason the Cavendish does not taste as good is because they are picked very green, stored in chilled an inert gas like argon and then gassed with ethylene gas to make it turn yellow. It is the same reason that apples, peaches and just about everything else today has less taste and nutrition than when fruit was picked ripe. In many cases it is the reason you can get them at all. The same is true for the sour pineapples people on the mainland get.

I often think we have lived in the golden minute of human existence between the first apple and the last.
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Kelena
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USA
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Posted - 08/01/2019 :  16:21:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you, rainyjim. That's right. I am in HPP. And it is already putting up shoots. I will inject them with Milestone. It is too bad. They were those tiny, good tasting bananas and tree was very productive...for awhile.
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dan d
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USA
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Posted - 08/03/2019 :  05:00:24  Show Profile  Visit dan d's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Try newest banans plamt it hawaii, they usually keep up


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