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jrw
Da Kine

USA
368 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2017 :  01:38:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Heard rumor Eden Rock was getting fiber optical from Hawaii Telcom does anyone know for sure.

jrw

loffelkopffl
Kamaaina

USA
708 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2017 :  05:39:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes they are stringing wire now
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EightFingers
Punatic

USA
2253 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2017 :  17:36:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wish it was here in HPP, it would at least give us another option to cable.
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kalakoa
Motormouth

10060 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2017 :  17:54:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fiber connections aren't really available to the general public at a reasonable price; they're generally used by Telcom for infrastructure (remote DSL cabinets, cell towers, etc).
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MarkP
Punatic

1927 Posts

Posted - 06/20/2017 :  07:08:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Right now here in Eden Roc we have no form of internet beyond cell, wireless, or satellite. It's hard to believe that we are getting something that HPP doesn't yet have. But HPP does have cable doesn't it so Eden Roc is just being brought up to par.
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PaulW
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4613 Posts

Posted - 06/20/2017 :  09:12:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Only parts of HPP have cable, be careful where you buy!
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VancouverIslander
Kamaaina

Canada
918 Posts

Posted - 06/20/2017 :  09:28:58  Show Profile  Visit VancouverIslander's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Please be a true rumour!

Me ka ha`aha`a,
Mike
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jrw
Da Kine

USA
368 Posts

Posted - 06/21/2017 :  07:05:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Friend stop and talk to Hawaii telecom crew they said in about 4 or 5 months it should be up and running . They told him price well be what you see on tv adds that real good news if that is true I will be saving a lot of $

jrw
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kalakoa
Motormouth

10060 Posts

Posted - 06/21/2017 :  07:32:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If it's "priced like on TV" then it's definitely a fiber uplink to a remote DSLAM.

Look for a big ("fridge-sized") white cabinet which will appear wherever the existing copper plant is thickest. It will have a HELCO meter.

Telcom is using a "conservative deploy", all new connections are at a minimum speed (3Mbit), after it's installed you call in to find out how much upgrade they can give you (they can run end-to-end tests against the DSL router to measure line quality).

If you don't already have analog service, get that installed ASAP, or your "location" doesn't exist for DSL. Note that Telcom does NOT require permits, phone service falls under NEC 70, and all Telcom craftspersons are considered "qualified" under the terms of the franchise agreement. All they need is a tall enough pole (or pipe attached to a building) close enough to their line (within 100'), really good grounding (two rods, or equivalent), and a bit of electricity to run the DSL router.

Order early, they have a tendency to underprovision the DSLAM -- the cabinet usually has capacity for about 500 lines, but they only populate a few dozen ports, then claim "out of ports" instead of simply installing more linecards. (Some irony, here: the fiber and cabinet are the "hard part", adding more ports is cheap and easy by comparison.)
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ericlp
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China
2652 Posts

Posted - 06/21/2017 :  23:48:49  Show Profile  Visit ericlp's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well, Fern Forest is right up the street, I hear they are next. Time will tell! Exciting news.
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bluesboy
Kamaaina

860 Posts

Posted - 06/22/2017 :  08:10:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
there are telephone lines in Eden Roc? will that be the transmission method?
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DTisme
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USA
1111 Posts

Posted - 06/23/2017 :  13:03:38  Show Profile  Visit DTisme's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I wonder if that's what they were just stringing down 3rd in HPP yesterday.
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MarkP
Punatic

1927 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2018 :  20:35:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am scheduled to get hooked up on the 26th (Friday). The techs stopped by a few days ago to scout out the job. Due to the distance back from the road they wanted at least one pole. I'm putting in two. They almost made me reschedule but relented when I promised to have the poles in by the 26th.

I got two 2 3/8" OD x 21' sch 40 pipes from Miranda's. By digging and chipping with a small demo hammer I was able to get a hole about 12" deep in the rock. I guyed the pole up from 3 directions to get it level and keep it there while the concrete cures, then troweled the concrete in around the base of the pole. I will probably build up around the base with more rocks and concrete to get a little better support.

My neighbor was getting the run around from Hawaiian TelCom. They somehow could not find him on the map. They were able to later after he gave them my address where they were scheduled to install service in a few days.
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My 2 cents
Da Kine

379 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2018 :  22:42:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
According to the specs that they sent me, they want a 4" pole sunk 5' deep for one utility. There's no way for them to know how deep you went (5' is just crazy) but they will certainly see the pole diameter. The good news is that the office people you talked to were probably in Honolulu and don't have a clue, and the installers, at least the ones I dealt with, were very helpful and understanding. Up to you how you want to proceed. Good luck.
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MarkP
Punatic

1927 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2018 :  00:50:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well I guess we shall see. I spoke with them and they did not specify a minimum size.

A 4" pole is something like $300. The 2 3/8" poles were $85 each.
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kalakoa
Motormouth

10060 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2018 :  08:20:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I spoke with them and they did not specify a minimum size.

If you want a real answer, you need to ask for a site survey, Telcom will send out an actual craftsperson who knows the real requirements and will tell them to you.

Requirements -- especially height -- are different if you're on the "good" side of the road (that is, with the poles, so the wire doesn't cross the road).

Telcom will also install in conduit if you give them a pull string.
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