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AinaloaGirl
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USA
14 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2018 :  13:19:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hogs are destroying my property in upper Ainaloa. If someone would be willing to kill them, I would be very grateful and give them a homemade pie for their trouble.

elfcarmel@gmail.com

AinaloaGirl

Mangosteen
Newbie

USA
40 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2018 :  14:16:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.hogwildtrappers.com/
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kalakoa
Motormouth

10273 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2018 :  14:34:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Killing them isn't a long-term solution; the jungle will make more pigs.

Invest in a fence and/or a dog.

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rainyjim
Punatic

1948 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2018 :  21:12:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Digging a hole and placing a 55 gallon barrel at a 45 degree angle is another option if you can 'dig' on your property.

Just place some food scraps in the barrel and when they go in to feed they won't be able to back out!
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birdmove
Punatic

USA
1206 Posts

Posted - 01/26/2018 :  19:49:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A dog might be a good choice. My daughter has three dogs. She often takes them on hikes. One of them has taken to killing wild pigs on these hikes.

Jon in Keaau/HPP
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AinaloaGirl
Newbie

USA
14 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2018 :  19:37:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Problem solved. Found neighbor via homeowner's association. The large male died in an instant, a single bullet. The youngins' and pregnant sow dispersed pronto, never to be seen again. Now for those wretched red ants.

AinaloaGirl
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Carey
Punatic

6715 Posts

Posted - 04/22/2018 :  10:36:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
FOR THE LFAs -the best thing we have found is Amdro yard treatment in the shaker bag (used to be "Firestrike" - available at the Keaau Ace) up in the trees, using little nail on bait traps made locally by a couple of Papaikou guys - or just flung up into trees on nice days when there are no flowers blooming.... aside from the Tango recipe from the AntLab (we find this to be more trouble...as the time it take s to mix up a one day use only batch, which is good for about 4x our property.... a rain cloud could drift over & make the whole process not as effective...)
The Amdro shaker bag has TWO active ingredients... the regular Amdro bait & the long term ingredient that is in Tango....

http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/2017/05/24/hawaii-news/papaikou-retirees-seeking-patent-for-little-fire-ant-bait-stations/

ETA: CAVEAT::: the AntLab has not approved the Amdro Shaker Bag yard treatment for LFAs, nor the use of it in trees... as it has not been tested & approved for use on LFAs & is a yard treatment, per the bag...

Edited by - Carey on 04/22/2018 10:44:52
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terracore
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4728 Posts

Posted - 04/22/2018 :  12:52:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We used the above product when it was called Firestrike, at the time it was the most effective but after a few applications the ants were no longer baited to it. Then Siesta came out. Fast knockout every time, and only requires a few hours of dry weather after application to be effective. From our experience all the poisons are equally lethal but there is something about the baiting mechanism in Siesta that makes it the winner. On paper the Advion granules should be the most effective but they were rated as inconsistent by the HAL, so we never tried it. I think it's the only baiting poison we haven't tried. If anybody has tried it I would love to hear about it.

I had read elsewhere that in Australia they kill LFA by augmenting Amdro with soybean oil to improve the baiting properties. I wonder if anybody here has tried that?
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kalianna
Da Kine

101 Posts

Posted - 04/22/2018 :  20:33:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We've been doing the BIISC recommended Tango treatment for six months now and now fire arts are finally gone. Yes, it took quite awhile and after four months with no change we were getting a little frustrated (and bit) but ultimately, it does work. Amdro only kills the workers, not the queens. Tango is taken back to the nest where the queens eat the bait. It's not poison, it's ant birth control, it won't hurt your pets, it won't hurt you, and even with all the rain we've managed to find 6 hour windows (which is all it takes) where it's not raining to do the treatment once a month. And it's pretty fun squirting the stuff up the trees too.
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Carey
Punatic

6715 Posts

Posted - 04/22/2018 :  22:55:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kalianna... Amdro yard treatment in the shaker bag has the exact same chemical as Tango - the IGR "S-Methprene" ALONG with the normal Amdro Ant Block chemical, Hydrametylnon...

So... is your statement addressed at all of the Amdro products (they have a whole line of products), OR the Ant Block statement (which is true), OR to the product Terracore
& I were referring to, the Amdro yard treatment in the shaker bag, which has the IGR that you have called |"ant birth control"... not quite what S-Methoprene does, as it is a growth regulator that stops the larval development of many insects, including ants... and is not to be used in a fun way, when there is a chance of also effecting beneficial insects

For those that may be wondering ... almost ALL pollinator insects are susceptible to the IGR S-methoprene, so it should be used with that caveat & with some caution..

CTAHR has a nice picture study on the attractiveness & weather of some baits... many that are not even discussed by AntLab .... as they will not endorse a treatment that has not been tested AND approved for the use BY THE MANUFACTURER... LFAs are not a huge market, at this time ...

https://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/haraa/HPCA%2009_14.pdf

Edited by - Carey on 04/22/2018 22:55:50
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