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HereOnThePrimalEdge
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South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 07/16/2019 :  12:09:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A camp of illegal tents and tarps between Ponahawai and Mamo streets in downtown Hilo has been given one month to move. Keith De La Cruz, owner of the Hilo Farmers market which had been cited and fined for illegal tarps over several years, commented:

The presence of the camp occasionally interferes with the nearby Hilo Farmers Market, said market owner Keith De La Cruz. Vendors and customers have complained.

One resident of the camp explained the reason for his presence:

Ikaika went on to say that it is his calling to be at the camp so he can educate others about the “dark nature” of the English language, which he claimed was designed by Satan.
https://www.westhawaiitoday.com/2019/07/15/business/county-gives-hilo-camp-owners-1-month/

Chunkster
Punatic

2085 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2019 :  12:54:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
. . . the “dark nature” of the English language, which he claimed was designed by Satan.

This is not unique to Ikaika. The first time I heard it was in my sixth grade spelling class, and it cropped up again frequently when we were conjugating irregular verbs later on.
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kalakoa
Motormouth

12429 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2019 :  13:06:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's apparently "acceptable" for protectors to establish camp on Mauna Kea, what makes this Downtown Hilo installation any less valid?
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HereOnThePrimalEdge
Punatic

South Sandwich Islands
8305 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2019 :  13:09:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
conjugating irregular verbs

Conjugating does sound an awful lot like conjuring, which is one of the devil’s snares. And irregular, well, enough said.
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Durian Fiend
Kamaaina

USA
527 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2019 :  13:24:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He could benefit from an education on, and treatment for, psychosis.
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MattKarma
Da Kine

USA
361 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2019 :  14:48:21  Show Profile  Visit MattKarma's Homepage  Reply with Quote


Surrounded by savages (!!!) What to do ...

***Still can't figure out how to spell 'car' correctly***
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terracore
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5845 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2019 :  16:43:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The guy needs to watch Rudolph again and then "educate others about the “dark nature” of the Elvish language, which was designed by Santa."

He needs to get the word out about a dark presence like Santa who watches little children when they sleep (CREEPY), captures Elves on their way to dental college and forces them into slave labor, and ridicules and exiles creatures, branding them "freaks" or "misfits" just because they don't match his narrow definition of perfection... until he can find a way to exploit them.
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MarkD
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Posted - 07/16/2019 :  21:59:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've walked by the place about 2 dozens times; it has a big fence around it and you can't see inside. It's pretty discreet. Not to say the homeless living here don't cause problems, but it's better to have them in there (with a portages-potty) than sleeping in doorways of businesses.

There's about 10 homeless doing that now just on the stretch from the market to Waianuenue. Probably 15-20 homeless in the encampment. If they close the encampment, where are those 15-20 going to go? To join the other 10 homeless sleeping in the doorways?
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rainyjim
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2079 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2019 :  22:04:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Apparently you can camp on Mauna Kea, maybe they can join the protestors up top.
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geochem
Kamaaina

USA
713 Posts

Posted - 07/17/2019 :  07:39:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
MarkD, it is my understanding that there are both empty shelter beds available, as well as county-sanctioned locations for hamping (homeless camping), if these people "choose" to occupy them. They "prefer" not to.

They are in violation of multiple laws and codes that the community, for better or worse, agreed, for reasons of safety, sanitation, economic stability, etc., that it was in the best interest of the larger community to follow. We seem to now be in an era where individuals can "choose" which laws/rules they are going to abide by, and our (spineless) community "leaders" can "choose" which laws/rules are going to be enforced and against whom they will be enforced (it's increasingly clear that some of us are more special than others of us where enforcement is concerned).

I think that this can legitimately be termed anarchy (noun: anarchy a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority...) and I personally don't expect a good outcome (for the broader community) from this trend.
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MarkD
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Posted - 07/17/2019 :  08:43:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I guess if the County has shelter beds, that sounds reasonable. Of course we have the perennial problem of homeless not wanting to go to shelters. Shelters don't allow pot and alcohol to my understanding; we know how this rule works out.

What about the other homeless sleeping in the doorways of the business? The County doesn't want to go after these people, but it's pursuing a setup that at least offers some organized shelter for some homeless.

OK, shut it down; we'll probably see the newly displaced homeless camping in doorways too.
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HereOnThePrimalEdge
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South Sandwich Islands
8305 Posts

Posted - 07/17/2019 :  09:01:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
we have the perennial problem of homeless not wanting to go to shelters. Shelters don't allow pot and alcohol to my understanding;

People with jobs pay taxes and follow certain rules and regulations every day with their bosses, coworkers, customers, etc. They (through their taxes) offer a bed, food, and medical all at no cost for the homeless. If a few of those homeless can’t abide by simple rules which, truth be told, benefit other residents in a shelter not the people paying for it, going rogue probably won’t solve their problems either.
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kalakoa
Motormouth

12429 Posts

Posted - 07/17/2019 :  09:23:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They (through their taxes) offer a bed, food, and medical all at no cost for the homeless.

There's no dignity in accepting a handout. Build a camp where the homeless can earn their keep, let them drink/smoke as long as they don't cause problems for others. Sure, this won't work for 100% of the problem, but it would probably solve a big piece, and for less than we're paying now.
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HereOnThePrimalEdge
Punatic

South Sandwich Islands
8305 Posts

Posted - 07/17/2019 :  09:48:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Build a camp where the homeless can earn their keep, let them drink/smoke as long as they don't cause problems for others.

Perhaps a wealthy Libertarian can purchase Kings Landing east of Hilo, build a compound (if he can get permits approved), and provide the homeless with basic work assignments on the property in exchange for food and shelter.

Freedom.
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dan d
Punatic

USA
1059 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2019 :  07:16:04  Show Profile  Visit dan d's Homepage  Reply with Quote
All homeless camps must be built nea a liquor store first lol


HPP
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bystander
Kamaaina

756 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2019 :  13:49:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe they should allow trailer parks here. This could at least help with high cost of housing situation.
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