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Daniel
Da Kine
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352 Posts |
 Posted - 02/23/2007 : 10:50:43
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Aloha, Considering a water well? We can answer your questions and explain the process and costs to you. There are many myths and misconceptions about water wells in HPP. Most wells in HPP have clean drinkable water. If any contaminants are encountered, the water can be easily treated. If you have any questions feel free to call us at 808-966-4129 Or simply leave a comment on this subject.
Thank you,
Diamond Drilling & Pump Service.
Daniel R Diamond
Edited by - Daniel on 02/23/2007 12:54:04 |
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John S. Rabi
Punatic
USA
2334 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2007 : 13:30:40
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Daniel, is it true that when you have your own well you still have to pay for the water to the COH?
Aloha,
John S. Rabi, ABR,CM,CRB,FHS,PB
http://www.JohnRabi.com
Typically Tropical Properties
75-5870 Walua Road, Suite 101
Kailua-Kona, HI 96740
(808)327-3185 |
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Tolleys
Da Kine
USA
233 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2007 : 14:06:14
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What are the advantages of well over catchment?
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Daniel
Da Kine
USA
352 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2007 : 14:07:30
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John, Thanks for asking. The answer is no. The county government is not involved with private wells. The only money paid to the government in a one time $25 application fee. The fee is paid to the DLNR commission on water resources management. There is no charge for the water. The DLNR does however ask for a monthly water usage report for monitoring purposes. This is to monitor the amount of water taken from the aquifer. The aquifer found underneath the puna area is capable of producing 618 million gallons of water a day. (more than the entire island of oahu.)
Mahalo, Daniel.
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Daniel
Da Kine
USA
352 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2007 : 14:31:37
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Tolleys,the advantages of wells over catchment are many.
-Wells don't run out after a dry spell, you would have a virtually endless supply of water.
-Water wells are less likely to become contaminated.
-Well water is not acidic, as sometimes our rain can be.
-There is no need for a large water tank in your yard, the space the well takes up is about two feet by two feet.
-The pump is in the bottom of the well where you can't hear it, no noisy pump in the middle of the night!
-You get a good feeling knowing that you won't run out of water.
-Well water is better for drinking.
I hope this answers your question, feel free to ask if you have anymore.
Thanks,
Daniel.
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oink
Punatic
USA
1492 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2007 : 15:16:54
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Can you advise what average depth required at various elevataions? Say, at 100", 250', 500', 1000', 2000' etc.? Is it only feasable at 200' and below etc. Saltwater intrusion neat the coast? Average cost per foot drilled? Here in S. FL I have a 3hp pump at about 85'. I only had to drill thru mostly sand and clay with a little limestone. How deep do you have to go to be worry free as for cespool contamination?
S. FL Islander to be
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Daniel
Da Kine
USA
352 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2007 : 00:31:46
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Oink, thanks for your questions. Fortunatly finding water in hawaii is very easy. The water table will always be found at sea level or a few inches above sea level. So to know how deep your well will be, all you need to know is your elevation. To help us find an approximate elevation we use USGS elevation maps and a percision surveying altimiter. We usually decline any wells deeper than four hundred feet. As far as salt water, intrusion has not been a problem. There has been two wells in hpp that had a high cloride level. They were both ocean front lots.(Most beach front lots have great water.) They were in the 800 ppm range, wich is well below the limit for potable water. Basicly the water had a slight salt taste, it wasn't great for drinking but served well for everything else. We suggested to the owners that they buy a Reverse osmosis system for drinking water and ice maker. Most wells here in HPP have a chloride level between 20 and 200 ppm. wich is very good. As for drilling costs our rates do not vary, except that all wells below 50 feet have a flat rate, and all wells above 50 feet are charged by the foot. Our rates are competetive and we can beat anyones price. If you would like to know more details about pricing, please call us at 808-966-4129. To answer your question about cesspools, I don't know the exact depth where cesspools are not allowed, but I do know that the limit in HPP is fifth ave. wich is about the 80 feet elevation. We have not encountered any cesspool related problems with any well that we have drilled. If above normal levels of bacteria or other contaminants are found in your water we can help you choose the type of treatment you would need.
I hope you find this helpful. If you have more questions feel free to ask.
Mahalo, Daniel.
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Hotzcatz
Punatic
USA
1582 Posts |
Posted - 02/27/2007 : 07:12:17
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Aloha Daniel,
Somewhere I read something about health disadvantages about reverse osmosis water. Something about it being too clean and folks needing some of the micro-nutrients in water. I forget the details, but reverse osmosis was red-flagged for use as the entire drinking water supply, at least in that article. I haven't researched the whole thing, I just read a lot and then forget half of what I just read. ;)
Do you need a permit to drill a well? Does the homeowner or driller get the permit? How long does it take to get the permit?
Can water wells use a windmill to draw the water up? We are off the grid and water pumps use rather a lot of power.
A hui hou,
Catz
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Daniel
Da Kine
USA
352 Posts |
Posted - 02/27/2007 : 18:38:30
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Catz,
Thank you for bringing this up. Reverse osmosis does take out just about everything, so it ends up like distilled water. The reason we suggest the RO system is if a well has high cholrides (salt content). Its a good and affordable way to get the salt out. There are also availble filters that actually add minerals to the water. Most bottled water has minerals added to it for better taste and health.
You also asked about well permits. Yes, a permit is required to drill a well. Drilling without one will get you in big trouble. We (The driller) will take care of all the paper work etc. needed to submit the application. We have a getting started info form for the owner to fill out, then we take it from there. The time varies, it usually takes 4-6 months.
Pumping the well off grid can be done a few different ways. Yes a windmill pump is a great option, if you have wind. If you would like to know more about windmill pumps visit: www.aermotorwindmill.com
A regular well pump uses about the same amount of electricity as a catchment pump. So if you have a big enough system all you need is a 220 volt converter (we have done two like this that work great). Another opption is solar water pumps. They start pumping when the sun comes up. There are many different ones to choose from. I think its great that you live off the grid. I plan to as well one day. If you have any more questions or would like to get started on a well permit application let me know.
Mahalo,
Daniel.
Daniel R Diamond
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Nate SC
Da Kine
USA
287 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2007 : 10:03:37
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Daniel
Da Kine
USA
352 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2007 : 11:50:29
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Nate,
It might be possible depending on your location in orchidland. Give us a call and we can look up your approx. elevation and talk about the cost, etc... If it is too deep for us we know someone who might be able to help you. Our number is 808-966-4129.
Thanks, Daniel.
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Kapohocat
Punatic
USA
2683 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2007 : 12:46:48
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The DOH requires your wastewater system to be 1000' ft from a public well. How do the wastewater systems affect private wells?
Could i put in a well and have a neighbor put in a cesspool that is elevated above my well?
It is well known that many lots (with unpermitted structures) from the old school days still have wastewater tapped in lava tubes. There are also many places that still have cesspools where now they are required to have septic.
Thanks for getting on here Daniel! I have been wonderign about wells for awhile!
Catherine Dumond
Blue Water Project Management
808 217-7578
http://bluewaterpm.125mb.com/index.html
"We help make building your dream home a reality"
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Daniel
Da Kine
USA
352 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2007 : 11:31:39
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Catherine, Thanks for your questions.
No that is not correct, public water systems are not required to be 1000' from any septic or cesspool waste water system anymore. Private wells in hawaii do not have regulated distances from waste water systems either. There really isn't a need for it. In areas where there could be a threat, cesspools are not allowed. Yes there are some old cesspools but it has been our experience that water from wells on lots that have cesspools and lots that have septic tanks test the same. In fact very rarely and only in very shollow areas has any well had a higher than the normal (naturally occuring) level of bacteria. However when we drill a new well, we reccomend that the well be 100' from any waste water system and uphill if posible. If your neighbor wants to install a cesspool kindly ask him or her to postion it away from your well. But even if they refuse it shouldn't be a problem. The ground works very well to filter the water as it goes down. The older a cesspool gets, the better filtered the water will be. If you would like I can send you some more info about septics and bacteria and how cesspools work. Hawaii has some of the best water in the world!!! I love my well water and I'm sure you would love it too.
Mahalo, Daniel.
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Tolleys
Da Kine
USA
233 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2007 : 03:05:26
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Looking for input from those that have a water well in HPP or puna area.
Any issues with your well? What good, whats bad? etc.
We will be building this summer and are considering a well.
thanks in advance.
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Jeffhale
Da Kine
178 Posts |
Posted - 03/18/2007 : 04:24:42
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Well, a well seems like a good idea but oh well, to much..
At 97 foot elevation, Daniel wants $11,000, and that's just to drill. Their current rate is $110 per foot. Pumps pipes etc are extra. What's worse is, they say they are the lowest cost in the island.
With a 50 feet minimum, at $110 per foot, $5,500, plus. That's not toooo bad if you are in a lower elevation.
If it only took them 'like' 3-4 days to drill, I would feel like I was robbed. Especially that, out in the Midwest where I just talked to a drilling contractor, the price went up this year, a whole $7.00 (Seven dollars) a foot. .
Not to be rude but, it sure
seems like, the privilege to live in Hawaii is; living with gold diggers.
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Tolleys
Da Kine
USA
233 Posts |
Posted - 03/18/2007 : 06:48:03
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Jeffhale,
Thanks for the input. I was wondering about the cost per foot in other places of the country.
Daniel,
Any comments on the hugh dollar delta on drilling per foot?
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