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Damon
Punatic

3738 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2008 :  07:31:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Damon
I've always heard that the "taking of lava rock" was a rumor started by tour companies so that they wouldn't have to clean up the remnants on their busses.

There is this website that is devoted to teaching people how they can "Return" lava rock once taken.

I had to laugh when I read this:

For taking care of returning your lava rock, a voluntary donation of $15.00 (or whatever you can afford, no matter how small) would be appreciated, to cover our cost for transportation, gas, ti leaf, and orchid, to return your lava rocks. If you can't afford to make a donation, don't worry about it...you may still send us your lava rocks. We will still be happy to take care of returning them for you!

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Coming home soon!



I'm sorry PELE! I really didn't laugh at you... I didn't mean it! Glen would chime in shortly after I said this that she was acting up again!

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Coming home soon!

Edited by - Damon on 01/11/2008 07:33:13
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Kapohocat
Punatic

USA
2683 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2008 :  08:49:11  Show Profile  Visit Kapohocat's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Last night we were out at the end of the road (yes residents only) but we went out with a resident. The glow and a few bursts out at the top of the hill was all you could see. A police officer came out there - not to shoo us away (only 3-5 cars out there) but to make sure kids weren't partying... ha ha .... he had an incredible story to tell us he was one of the officers 20+ years ago that was at the top of RG watching the lava and doing the reports - he said they left their cars running so if the lava started to move faster they could get out. It was great to talk story with someone who was truly on the scene years ago. He also told us about RG's roads being so steep that it was hard to get up them even though they were paved (!!!). I was amazed at the thought of paved roads in Puna 20 years ago!! ha ha

Edited by - Kapohocat on 01/11/2008 08:51:34
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Tahunatics
Da Kine

173 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2008 :  11:33:52  Show Profile  Visit Tahunatics's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Here's some photos taken yesterday and today's HTH article:

http://www.wailukuphoto.com/gallery/4147316#242055495

http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/kilauea/update/images.html

http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/articles/2008/01/11/local_news/local02.txt
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pohaku
Da Kine

USA
120 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2008 :  23:42:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My ex and a few of her friends lots homes 20 years ago in Kalapana, wasn't very funny. But it taught you, you could be next.

She could again in Black Sands Subdivision.
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Glen
Punatic

USA
1803 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2008 :  10:58:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ROYAL GARDENS HAS BEEN SPARED ....I mean, it would have been spared...or has avoided not being spared again. <<The channelized `a`a flow that threatened the Royal Gardens subdivision has stalled and is only active within a few hundred yards of its source, the breached southeeasternmost rootless shield. Activity continued at the other rootless shields.>>

Of course, we must be vewwy quiet, or it could start up again. People in Royal Gardens: No loud blasting rock music. Symphonic music or chants only!
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billy
malihini

USA
75 Posts

Posted - 01/13/2008 :  05:02:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
SO what is going on with the last lots of royal gardens are they ok or gone? What happens to the land will the land owner still have the land and have to pay taxes or ?
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gtill
Punatic

USA
1114 Posts

Posted - 01/13/2008 :  06:23:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Billy has a good question, the RG lots were being advertised at 10K. and assesed at less. Does an inundation null your right to rejuvinate your lot.
Oceanfront owners who's land gains in size, loose the gain to the state.
With GPS a single lot in the middle could be located. Real pioneering!
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Glen
Punatic

USA
1803 Posts

Posted - 01/13/2008 :  06:41:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From what I understand, you can rebuild on your lot.....if you can find it. As for the residents, there is the famous guy who runs one of the world's most unusual B & B's (I think calling it a B & B might be inflating it a little bit...I think it is something more informal) and there might be a squatter or two.
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mella l
Punatic

USA
2491 Posts

Posted - 01/13/2008 :  06:51:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/01/13/RE1GUC3NT.DTL&hw=lava&sn=001&sc=1000

Lava land hot property in Hawaii
Thanks to volcano, people can get (somewhat risky) sites cheap
Robert Hollis, Special to The Chronicle

Sunday, January 13, 2008

Just a bit of advertisement in the Sureal Estate news, gives a good explanation of the current 25 year flow and comments from Mayor Kim, Kapoho as well as agents. Quite indepth article. Thought you might enjoy this information.




mella l
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LavaOcean
malihini

USA
62 Posts

Posted - 01/13/2008 :  18:28:25  Show Profile  Visit LavaOcean's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Some amazing lava flow were coming down the mountain this morning. While out fishing we counted 4 or more flow spread across the hillside.

Shane Turpin
Lava Ocean Adventures
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JonP
Da Kine

107 Posts

Posted - 01/13/2008 :  20:52:38  Show Profile  Send JonP a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
"At least 4 narrow secondary flows have spawned off the stalled January 8th `a`a flow. One of them has advanced along the eastern margin and entered the Royal Gardens subdivision."

Edited by - JonP on 01/13/2008 21:11:02
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Kapohocat
Punatic

USA
2683 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2008 :  09:27:53  Show Profile  Visit Kapohocat's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gtill

Billy has a good question, the RG lots were being advertised at 10K. and assesed at less. Does an inundation null your right to rejuvinate your lot.
Oceanfront owners who's land gains in size, loose the gain to the state.
With GPS a single lot in the middle could be located. Real pioneering!



Yes there are some who do rebuild. If you can believe this though, while applying for a building permit, you must apply for a demolition permit also. Yes it seems funny! The truth is the demo permit allows all the agencies to get their paper work updated. The reason for the demo permit says right on it "Inundated by lava"...
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JerryCarr
Punatic

1727 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2008 :  09:57:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cat, please tell me they don't charge for a demolition permit when some poor soul's house has been destroyed and the lava has already done the demolition. Only in the perverse world of bureaucracy-speak does this make sense!

Cheers,
Jerry
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Rob Tucker
Kama'aina

4080 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2008 :  10:11:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I doubt they waive the $10 fee.... but demolition permits are needed to legally void the presence of the (used to be) existing residence.

In non lava situations a demolition permit is practical, cheap and usefulfor the same reasons. It also launches the Dept. of Health on vector control (rats). When an old shack
is demolished, if the rats haven't been dealt with, then all the neighbors get hit with a tide of displaced rats. Not nice to inflict that on the neighborhood.
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Rob Tucker
Kama'aina

4080 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2008 :  10:14:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I doubt they waive the $10 fee.... but demolition permits are needed to legally void the presence of the (used to be) existing residence. It's not as stupid as it sounds.

In non lava situations a demolition permit is practical, cheap and useful for the same reasons. It also launches the Dept. of Health on vector control (rats). When an old shack
is demolished, if the rats haven't been dealt with, then all the neighbors get hit with a tide of displaced rats. Not nice to inflict that on the neighborhood.
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