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rosebud
Newbie
USA
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 Posted - 03/03/2009 : 14:09:05
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| Would someone mind giving me the pros and cons for these two communities. I am interested in: weather, how close to the ocean to have sunshine, community, and most important, high speed internet. We will be working remotely. Thank you. Debby |
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PaulW
Kamaaina
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Posted - 03/03/2009 : 14:29:50
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| HPP has great weather: lots of rain and lots of sun. I believe the closer you are to the ocean the more sun you have, but I don't think there's a huge difference (elevation goes up 500ft over 4 miles). In some places in HPP you can get ADSL, in some places you can get cable internet, but I think just about everywhere you can get AWS internet (you need to install a receiver) and satellite internet. |
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KathyH
Punatic
USA
2357 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2009 : 16:32:06
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I didn't end up buying in HPP, but during the month I spent looking, which was in summer, I noted that it would be raining in the upper park, even pouring, and the rain and clouds would gradually decrease going towards the coast.
Second or third street is where I saw the major shift. Kaloli Point is a sunny microclimate, and also expensive.
HRSE, the main thing that bothered me was small lots and a lot of construction going on. (this was true of HPP so far as lots of construction)
At the moment construction is slow, but I'm sure it will be back. It can get old having houses built right next to you. I've been through FIVE houses built adjacent to me and it's very disruptive, so I look for lots that have the adjacent lots built.
That was hard to find in both subdivisions. Unbuilt lots are always a question mark what you will get.
To state the obvious, HSRE is farther from Hilo than HPP. I guess it depends on how much you like Pahoa as your primary town as to how you feel about that.
I looked at a house on Kaloli Point that had Time Warner. I suggest you call the Hilo office and ask where in Puna you can get their hard wired internet (Roadrunner).
I have no idea about DSL availability, but again, call Hawaiian Telcom to find out. |
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waynesb
Da Kine
USA
193 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2009 : 18:31:26
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Unless they have changed their policy, the cable company won't tell you neighborhoods they serve, just whether they will serve a particular address. Annoying if you don't have an address yet! Best bet for knowing if cable is available is to talk to the neighbors and/or learn how to recognize the cable on the pole. I understand that cable is available everywhere in Beaches/Parks/Shores. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Other amenities not in HPP are pavement and mail delivery. In HSRE is also the rooster prohibition, swimming pool and park. |
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JonP
Da Kine
107 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2009 : 18:35:07
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| Also in HSRE, no catchment water... |
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Blakeyboy1
Da Kine
USA
485 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2009 : 19:08:33
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We are seriously considering HPP and will be there next week to look around. This topic has yielded some great info that I had not seen before so thanks all of you! I think I will post a link to this topic for future reference.
-Blake
http://www.theboysgreatescape.blogspot.com/ |
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PaulW
Kamaaina
832 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2009 : 20:24:38
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| JonP, what do you mean by "no catchment water"?? |
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cynmkolohe
malihini
79 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2009 : 20:49:43
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Edit:
These subdivisions have private water... (HSRE has its own system. Contact # 965-8140. Hawaiian Shores, etc are served by a private water company. It used to be Miller & Leib...is now the Hawaiian Beaches Water Company. Contact # 965-9882.)
There are a few lots available in HPP that have access to county water.
Cynthia
Cynthia Hoskins, R(S)
Cell: 808 443-6564
Clark Realty Corporation
99 Aupuni St Hilo, HI
Office: 808 961-6015 |
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JonP
Da Kine
107 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2009 : 21:27:36
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Not quite right. HSRE has its own water supply. The HOA owns the infrastructure. Hawaiian Beaches and the other three subdivisions that exist alongside HSRE contract for their water suppy with a private company.
That's what I meant by 'no catchment'. In HSRE the homeowners own a water supply infrastructure that delivers great quality water to their homes. It costs $36 per month.
It can be confusing. |
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cynmkolohe
malihini
79 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2009 : 08:48:52
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Thanks, JonP...I should have made the distinction.
On another topic regarding HSRE. Do you know what happened to the old website? Am I missing it when I search or is this the only site now? http://hawaiianshores.org/
Cynthia |
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JonP
Da Kine
107 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2009 : 12:28:11
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That's the new web site since the big whoopdiedoo with the BOD. One group got ousted by the current group, etc. Still litigation going on. If you look through the meeting archives (if you have nothing but time...) you can get some sense of it.
I have no stake in it except being a HSRE homeowner. I like drama... |
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jdirgo
Punatic
USA
1112 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2009 : 14:16:12
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HSRE has smaller lots (about 1/3rd of an acre) versus the standard (although smaller close to the ocean) 1-acre in HPP. HSRE has better availability of cable and high-speed internet (but even so, its still a little hit-or-miss in both places). HSRE has mail delivery to your home, which HPP does not. The water issue has been dealt with already in good detail. HSRE has CC&Rs whereas HPP does not (nothing to prevent a neighbor from having a rooster farm next door). Weather-wise, I'd say they are similar and both have the same phenomenon of "as you get closer to the ocean, there's often less rain".
John Dirgo, R, ABR, e-PRO
Aloha Coast Realty, LLC
808-987-9243 cell
http://www.alohacoastrealty.com |
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