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glinda
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USA
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Posted - 02/02/2019 :  12:47:58  Show Profile
Of course it is all speculative, but on the same day she is in Honolulu doing her "formal" announcement NBC is reporting..

From: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/russia-s-propaganda-machine-discovers-2020-democratic-candidate-tulsi-gabbard-n964261

The Russian propaganda machine that tried to influence the 2016 U.S. election is now promoting the presidential aspirations of a controversial Hawaii Democrat who earlier this month declared her intention to run for president in 2020.

An NBC News analysis of the main English-language news sites employed by Russia in its 2016 election meddling shows Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii, who is set to make her formal announcement Saturday, has become a favorite of the sites Moscow used when it interfered in 2016.

Several experts who track websites and social media linked to the Kremlin have also seen what they believe may be the first stirrings of an upcoming Russian campaign of support for Gabbard.

Since Gabbard announced her intention to run on Jan. 11, there have been at least 20 Gabbard stories on three major Moscow-based English-language websites affiliated with or supportive of the Russian government: RT, the Russian-owned TV outlet; Sputnik News, a radio outlet; and Russia Insider, a blog that experts say closely follows the Kremlin line. The CIA has called RT and Sputnik part of "Russia's state-run propaganda machine."....


more at link above...

HereOnThePrimalEdge
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South Sandwich Islands
8305 Posts

Posted - 02/02/2019 :  13:48:56  Show Profile
The main reason a majority of Russian political organizations and politically affiliated news organizations have shown support for Tulsi is because she favors withdrawing American influence from Syria. Leaving Russia as the only major power there.

She held her campaign kickoff at Hilton Hawaiian I believe, in Honolulu, not even in her own district. We have plenty of large resorts in Kona, Maui has large venues as does Kauai. Looks like the people she represents will be in her rear view mirror for the next two years.

“You can’t talk sense to someone who makes no sense.” - Sen Mazie Hirono 1/24/19
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Frank
Kamaaina

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Posted - 02/02/2019 :  14:51:56  Show Profile
In the interest of additional information as to who, where, what Tulsi represents in her present role of US Representative from Hawaii for Hawaii's 2nd congressional district ...

Hawaii's 2nd congressional district is a congressional district in the U.S. state of Hawaii. The district encompasses all rural and most suburban areas of Oahu/Honolulu County, as well as the entire state outside of Oahu.
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HereOnThePrimalEdge
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South Sandwich Islands
8305 Posts

Posted - 02/02/2019 :  15:51:21  Show Profile
The district encompasses all rural and most suburban areas of Oahu/Honolulu County, as well as the entire state outside of Oahu.

That also includes since her campaign announcement, Moscow. Apparently.

“You can’t talk sense to someone who makes no sense.” - Sen Mazie Hirono 1/24/19
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Frank
Kamaaina

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Posted - 02/03/2019 :  19:23:31  Show Profile
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-03/nbc-news-exposed-reporting-pure-propaganda-gabbards-russia-links-disinfo-democrat

could be???...maybe not
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glinda
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USA
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Posted - 02/03/2019 :  21:33:36  Show Profile
zerohedge.com...

You might want to seek a second opinion..

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/?s=zero+hedge
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Frank
Kamaaina

993 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2019 :  08:07:23  Show Profile
Taken from this link...https://www.rt.com/usa/450613-nbc-gabbard-new-knowledge-smear/

yep, I'm aware RT is as uncreditable as NBC but...mainstream media in the USA is not gonna support a someone for office who is Not in the bucket,imho

Gabbard shared the Intercept’s article Sunday, saying NBC “used journalistic fraud” to discredit her campaign in order to “to smear any adversary of the establishment wing of the Democratic Party – whether on the left or the right – as a stooge or asset of the Kremlin.”


Tulsi Gabbard
#10004;
@TulsiGabbard
As commander-in-chief, I will work to end the new cold war, nuclear arms race and slide into nuclear war. That is why the neocon/neolib warmongers will do anything to stop me.

Tulsi Gabbard
#10004;
@TulsiGabbard
@ggreenwald exposes that @NBC used journalistic fraud to discredit our campaign. But more important is their motive: “to smear any adversary of the establishment wing of the Democratic Party – whether on the left or the right – as a stooge or asset of the Kremlin.” https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1092060704226664448

eta...another take - https://theintercept.com/2019/02/03/nbc-news-to-claim-russia-supports-tulsi-gabbard-relies-on-firm-just-caught-fabricating-russia-data-for-the-democratic-party/

Edited by - Frank on 02/04/2019 08:23:15
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glinda
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USA
1364 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2019 :  09:23:56  Show Profile
yep.. Russian news is real credible these days.. and your using them as a reputable source to discredit them being accused of something... you have no idea how funny that is, do you?
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HereOnThePrimalEdge
Punatic

South Sandwich Islands
8305 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2019 :  09:36:52  Show Profile
yep, I'm aware RT is as uncreditable as NBC but...

One way to check how reputable a news site might be is to find out how many reporters they have on staff.
Can NBC call a bureau chief in Moscow to fact check a story?
Can Zerohedge, RT, or The Intercept?
Then, if RT has reporters, what is their background?

“You can’t talk sense to someone who makes no sense.” - Sen Mazie Hirono 1/24/19
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Frank
Kamaaina

993 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2019 :  09:44:02  Show Profile
@ glinda...and your using them as a reputable source to discredit them being accused of something... you have no idea how funny that is, do you?

I think it would be very funny if that were the case, but, I don't think I posted anything about "reputable" being used by rt or nbc...rt used an american generated source...link -

https://theintercept.com/2019/02/03/nbc-news-to-claim-russia-supports-tulsi-gabbard-relies-on-firm-just-caught-fabricating-russia-data-for-the-democratic-party/

Taken directly from american source...

What NBC — amazingly — concealed is a fact that reveals its article to be a journalistic fraud: That same firm, New Knowledge, was caught just six weeks ago engaging in a massive scam to create fictitious Russian troll accounts on Facebook and Twitter in order to claim that the Kremlin was working to defeat Democratic Senate nominee Doug Jones in Alabama. The New York Times, when exposing the scam, quoted a New Knowledge report that boasted of its fabrications: “We orchestrated an elaborate ‘false flag’ operation that planted the idea that the [Roy] Moore campaign was amplified on social media by a Russian botnet.'”
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HereOnThePrimalEdge
Punatic

South Sandwich Islands
8305 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2019 :  10:55:43  Show Profile
rt used an american generated source...link -

It may be American, but there are plenty of subjective, half baked, disreputable American sources.
As the old wise ones say:
Consider the source.

I would add:
Also consider whoever and where ever the source may originate. (do they employ on-the-ground reporters?)
Yes, even "that one guy" you met in the Pahoa Island Naturals parking lot, who seemed to know a lot about the subject.

“You can’t talk sense to someone who makes no sense.” - Sen Mazie Hirono 1/24/19
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Frank
Kamaaina

993 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2019 :  14:19:53  Show Profile

@hopte...It may be American, but there are plenty of subjective, half baked, disreputable American sources.
As the old wise ones say:
Consider the source.


Well I have...from this link - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-intercept/

From the rating - Overall, we rate The Intercept progressive Left Biased based on story selection that favors the left and High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing.

Can we get off = This is about Frank or HOPTE or g linda - and back to question/assertion of Tulsi is in Russia's pocket? Please
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Rob Tucker
Kama'aina

9836 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2019 :  15:12:59  Show Profile
You folks aren't discussing Tulsi, you're wandering off the farm again...

Say good bye. Locking it up children.

Assume the best and ask questions.

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