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kalianna
Da Kine

236 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2018 :  17:27:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Five days. Granted an earthquake is not a lava flow but still...

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/alaska-earthquake-road-repair/

alaskyn66
Punatic

1395 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2018 :  17:33:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
D.O.T in Alaska are arguably the best in the country. Earthquakes, avalanches, ect... With high tech equipment to deal with all of it.

Got to ride along in a snow plow on Thompson pass. Total white out. I don't know why they have windows.dont need em. GPS and lcd display show where you are at on the roadway.

If Hawaii taxed the tourist resorts like Alaska taxes the oil companies. We could have nice toys too.

Edited by - alaskyn66 on 12/05/2018 17:45:44
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1voyager1
Kamaaina

USA
745 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2018 :  17:49:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Agreed, akn66.
The only hold up will be waiting for the ground to thaw.

Alaska's climatic conditions make road repairs a very high priority item.
They have the equipment to do the job.

Plus, Alaska is a relatively well financed state, not the poor ne'er-do-well that Hawaii is.
It takes more than tourism to finance the graft, favoritism and other drains on our local governments, leaving little for fixing the damage.

EDIT:
I didn't follow the link above before making my post.
The photos do not surprise me.
That kind of response is expected in Alaska.

Edited by - 1voyager1 on 12/05/2018 18:18:16
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ckg
Da Kine

USA
101 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2018 :  18:16:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hawaii certainly drains the tourist as that is the only actual revenue generator (by design). Check out the property tax rates for homeowners to the non voter timeshares. https://www.mauirealestate.com/2016-2017-maui-property-tax-rates-2/
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leilanidude
Punatic

USA
3361 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2018 :  20:23:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If Hawaii taxed the tourist resorts like Alaska taxes the oil companies. We could have nice toys too.
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They already do, and have been, for decades. They simply squander the money on their connected contractor friends.
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terracore
Punatic

5198 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2018 :  16:34:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Having lived both places, while the weather climates are different the states are remarkably similar (barges, cost of living, isolation, native and haole/cheechako populations, etc).

Look at the political parties that have always controlled each state and you have your answer.
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jrw
Da Kine

USA
407 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2018 :  17:03:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I work construction in Alaska for 30 years and I can tell you it is done a lot faster. ,You dont have where you start working on a road and then just quit for weeks, Have never figure out what all the delays are here in Hawaii.

jrw
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terracore
Punatic

5198 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2018 :  17:21:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In Hawaii when they stop working on the roads, seemingly randomly for weeks or months, the cones always manage to stay out. Someone here on Punaweb pointed out that those are union cones. They have unions in Alaska too, but they don't control the government.

Maybe it IS the climate? In many parts of Alaska you have a good 60 day window each year to paint lines on the road. If Hawaii had that limitation, we'd have bare roads, year round.
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kalakoa
Motormouth

11398 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2018 :  18:16:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In many parts of Alaska you have a good 60 day window each year

That's more days/year than they can work on roads in Puna.
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waawaawah
malihini

USA
93 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2018 :  19:39:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I went to work Banyan Drive hotel this morning. Planned power outright by Helco. Power came back at it 6 am as planned after down all night. Tourist boarded elevators to go to breakfast., power goes out. Fire trucks respond to tourists stuck in elevators. Employees go home. Weddings cancelled. Freezers thawing.. Welcome to Hawaii! Infrastructure of a third world country. At least 30 Helco workers standing around scratching their "heads"., wondering who, what, where. I spent 40 years construction Alaska. Sorry, Hawaii is a JOKE!!!
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alaskyn66
Punatic

1395 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2018 :  20:06:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Seems more like a union slash leadership problem, than a worker problem. I have faith in the grunts that do the work. But I have to question the other.

I have a sudden craving for popcorn..
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Open-d
Da Kine

197 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2018 :  20:21:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by leilanidude

If Hawaii taxed the tourist resorts like Alaska taxes the oil companies. We could have nice toys too.
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They already do, and have been, for decades. They simply squander the money on their connected contractor friends.

Bingo.

Speaking Truth to Lies / Facts to Ignorance
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jrw
Da Kine

USA
407 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2018 :  10:42:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by alaskyn66

Seems more like a union slash leadership problem, than a worker problem. I have faith in the grunts that do the work. But I have to question the other.

I have a sudden craving for popcorn..

I dont think it a union or worker faults the county and state lets it happen the company's know they can do it this way and get cost overruns or no penalty for doing it.

jrw
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Open-d
Da Kine

197 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2018 :  11:24:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by terracore

Having lived both places, while the weather climates are different the states are remarkably similar (barges, cost of living, isolation, native and haole/cheechako populations, etc).

Look at the political parties that have always controlled each state and you have your answer.

So very true!!

Speaking Truth to Lies / Facts to Ignorance
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