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TomK
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Posted - 08/11/2019 :  02:19:48  Show Profile  Visit TomK's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sorry, can't help, I'm watching Idiocracy on Hulu. Duh. I like might get back to you one day.
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MarkP
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Posted - 08/11/2019 :  02:32:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I couldn't understand at first that people were demanding confirmation that claims about TMT polluting the aquifer were being made. Just listen to the protesters, read the paper. Seems like willfully not seeing/hearing to me. Weren't the protesters recently shouting that they were the "water protectors"? Dunno when it started or who started it but doubting it now is like trump standing by silent while his trained monkeys shouted "send her back", then later claiming he tried to stop it.
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TomK
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USA
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Posted - 08/11/2019 :  03:33:19  Show Profile  Visit TomK's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The protesters were chanting "we are the water protectors" during Jason Momoa's visit.

Can we please keep Trump out of the discussion? It really doesn't help either side.
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ElysianWort
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USA
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Posted - 08/11/2019 :  10:49:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I once watched a documentary that said if Mauna loa erupted it would cause a Tsunami that would wipe out the island chain in minutes with the wave going OVER diamond head.... any thoughts?? Someone who understands geology please helppp"


Hmm who posted that on Facebook? (aka life invader)

Mauna Loa Erupted in the mid 80s, 84 I think. I was here. That wasn't too long ago. Lava spewed up and came down the hill. No tsunami.
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kalianna
Da Kine

374 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2019 :  23:20:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"what I'm asking you to provide are statements about the impacts of the TMT from supporters that are untrue"

I'm not sure why you're asking me this. I don't think that supporters are speaking untruths about the impacts but they are speaking stereotypically and falsely about the protestors/protectors and what is and is not happening on the mountain. All I'm asking is that people on both sides verify their information.
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TomK
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USA
8505 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2019 :  23:50:49  Show Profile  Visit TomK's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Putting aside all the comments from both sides that are not about the TMT, I am asking you to provide a list of lies about the TMT that its proponents have made. I can provide an enormous list of lies about the TMT from those that are against the telescope, so am asking if you are willing to do the same from the other side. My bet is you can't.
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kalianna
Da Kine

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Posted - 08/12/2019 :  00:27:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From earlier in this thread:

"people leaving trash, yahoos racing around with Hawaiian distress flags, trucks leaking oil on the mauna, big party, etc"
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randomq
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Posted - 08/12/2019 :  06:57:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've seen the big trucks with upside down flags all over Hilo, Puna, and on saddle. I guess it's up for debate if they are yahoos... :)

I also know people personally that have gone up there to check out the scene and socialize with friends, not because they are protesting.

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leilanidude
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Posted - 08/12/2019 :  13:27:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I also know people personally that have gone up there to check out the scene and socialize with friends, not because they are protesting.
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They are trying to be part of the "cool crowd".
Vast majority is fake/phony.
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kalianna
Da Kine

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Posted - 08/12/2019 :  13:34:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And just maybe some people are going up there to see for themselves what is going on, rather than relying on social media and hearsay for their "information".
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ironyak
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Posted - 08/12/2019 :  15:09:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This appears to be the commercial in question (someone with network TV can confirm perhaps?)

https://twitter.com/TMTHawaii/status/1159967226205577216
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TomK
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USA
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Posted - 08/13/2019 :  20:21:15  Show Profile  Visit TomK's Homepage  Reply with Quote
geochem wrote:

"Snorkle, I don't know whether your naivete is willful or faked, but try telling that to Wally Ishibashi - who had a bunch of flag-dragging pickups show up at his home (where his family resides) and spent a couple of hours blasting his home (and neighbors) with the protestors theme song - Get the F*** off our Mauna... Wally has a good deal more claim to Hawaiian ancestry than most of those dirt-bags blocking the road. But I guess that was these thugs just having good fun, expressing their opinion, right???"

The same thing is now happening to at least one of the Maunakea Observatories' directors. Shameful.
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