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Hawaii County Hazard Mitigation Plan - Moderator 2 - 03-06-2025
There’s a link at the end of the HNN story for a survey. The survey is not all multiple choice, you can enter specific concerns. Let them know we in Puna have concerns.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/03/05/hawaii-county-seeks-public-input-multi-hazard-mitigation-plan/
RE: Hawaii County Hazard Mitigation Plan - ChunksterK - 03-06-2025
Whenever these various plans get done, usually at considerable expense mainly for off island consultants, nothing ever seems to come of them. The Puna Community Development Plan comes to mind as a massive example and failure. So I will do the survey and list my biggest concern as this being another worthless exercise in futility.
RE: Hawaii County Hazard Mitigation Plan - HiloJulie - 03-06-2025
Excellent point ChunksterK.
I intend to do the same thing as well as adding that when the Federal or State Governments appropriate monies for critical emergency hazard studies that also require the County to do something by a certain date, that someone makes sure it gets done by that certain date so that it would never allow the Federal or State funding to become expired and then not even know it expired for 6 month after it expired.
RE: Hawaii County Hazard Mitigation Plan - leilanidude - 03-07-2025
The replacement roads across the new lava should have been immediately planned and done, not waiting for years along with proclaiming that extensive EIS needed to be done. There was nothing living or growing on that new lava, nor could there be any ancient archeological sites that would be disturbed, especially as the lava flow is 40-100 feet thick. Besides, rebuilding on the top of an already approved roadway, just at a higher elevation should have been a no-brainer.
They built the temp road (which years later is still a temp road) quite quickly, with no EIS.
RE: Hawaii County Hazard Mitigation Plan - kalakoa - 03-07-2025
They built the temp road (which years later is still a temp road) quite quickly, with no EIS.
EIS is either a must-have requirement or something that can be ignored in an emergency. It just depends who wants what, and why.
The Puna Community Development Plan comes to mind as a massive example and failure.
The PCDP makes an entertaining read 17 years later: it basically says that everything in Puna should stay the same -- and it has. In that sense, it has been a very successful plan.
RE: Hawaii County Hazard Mitigation Plan - HiloJulie - 03-07-2025
Amazing that when an issue impacts YOU, the taxpayer checkbook is bottomless and can't be fast enough, but when the taxpayer checkbook is used to help someone else, its "waste, fraud and corruption."
ETA: I see in at least one of the Hilo news outlets a story about now finalizing the Puna Alternate Route Study contract while still hoping the funding can be restored.
I'd post a link or cut and paste the story, but if you want to know more as was clearly pointed out to me on another thread "...in this day and age we all have access to the internet which we can research and read the news and come to our own conclusions ??"
Go for it.
RE: Hawaii County Hazard Mitigation Plan - Obie - 03-07-2025
"I'd post a link or cut and paste the story, but if you want to know more as was clearly pointed out to me on another thread "...in this day and age we all have access to the internet which we can research and read the news and come to our own conclusions ??"
So you're saying that you are the only one smart enough to find the Tribune Herald article ?
RE: Hawaii County Hazard Mitigation Plan - HiloJulie - 03-07-2025
(03-07-2025, 05:55 PM)Obie Wrote: So you're saying that you are the only one smart enough to find the Tribune Herald article ?
No, I'm not saying that, you are.
Now, to be fair, I am sure that if you are using the HTH website, that you are a fully paid subscriber to that service and would in no way try to circumvent that paywall or in any way try to scam the HTH subscription system. Right?
At any event, did you fill in your concerns on the survey from the OP link provided by Moderator 2?
RE: Hawaii County Hazard Mitigation Plan - leilanidude - 03-07-2025
For those of you that actually pay for it:
https://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/2025/03/07/hawaii-news/county-to-move-ahead-with-puna-route-study-contract-being-finalized-but-state-funding-remains-lapsed/
RE: Hawaii County Hazard Mitigation Plan - HiloJulie - 03-07-2025
First, and more importantly, did YOU fill in your concerns on the survey from the OP link provided by Moderator 2?
But then, I am now a bit conflicted:
First, you said this:
(03-07-2025, 06:23 PM)leilanidude Wrote: For those of you that actually pay for it:
https://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/2025/03/07/hawaii-news/county-to-move-ahead-with-puna-route-study-contract-being-finalized-but-state-funding-remains-lapsed/
But then, you also said this:
(03-07-2025, 01:37 PM)leilanidude Wrote: Since I do not pay for ANY sources that have a paywall, I have NEVER posted an entire article or even snippet that is behind one.
But then, you also once said this:
(09-23-2023, 03:04 PM)leilanidude Wrote: The paywall is poorly implemented.
Right click on page
View page source
Scroll down about 2/3rds of the source code and read the article
So then, are YOU an actual paying customer, or did you exploit the “poorly implemented paywall” as you once described to the whole of PunaWeb on how to do so YOU could read the news story, or did you post the link to the Puna Alternate Route Study contract news story for the convenience to the rest of the PunaWeb community to further allow for comment, critique and discussion as some other PunaWeb posters do quite regularly but apparently get a bit chastised for doing so?
At any event, although it probably won't do much of anything, I'd recommend completing the survey in the link provided by Moderator 2.
And I sincerely hope Greggor can get that State million back, but somehow, I am quite sure the County will screw it up.
Again.