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helco to clean up emissions - Bullwinkle - 11-15-2012
http://hawaiitribune-herald.com/sections/news/local-news/helco-ordered-cap-emissions.html
So............ can we expect another increase in rates?
RE: helco to clean up emissions - EightFingers - 11-15-2012
Cap and trade.......enjoy...... The mighty hand of the EPA will reach deep into your wallets!
RE: helco to clean up emissions - Midnight Rambler - 11-15-2012
Rates will likely increase anyway, since that's how HELCO works, but since they're already under the limit and new power sources aren't sulfur-producing, it doesn't look like that will be a reason for it.
RE: helco to clean up emissions - Bullwinkle - 11-15-2012
Cap and trade? - talking about methane from all the non indigenous big island cattle? A real issue in feed lots as well
-grin
http://timeforchange.org/are-cows-cause-of-global-warming-meat-methane-CO2
Are cows the cause of global warming?
A cow does on overage release between 70 and 120 kg of Methane per year. Methane is a greenhouse gas like carbon dioxide (CO2). But the negative effect on the climate of Methane is 23 times higher than the effect of CO2. Therefore the release of about 100 kg Methane per year for each cow is equivalent to about 2'300 kg CO2 per year.
Let's compare this value of 2'300 kg CO2: The same amount of carbon dioxide (CO2) is generated by burning 1'000 liters of petrol. With a car using 8 liters of petrol per 100 km, you could drive 12'500 km per year (7'800 miles per year).
World-wide, there are about 1.5 billion cows and bulls. All ruminants (animals which regurgitates food and re-chews it) on the world emit about two billion metric tons of CO2-equivalents per year. In addition, clearing of tropical forests and rain forests to get more grazing land and farm land is responsible for an extra 2.8 billion metric tons of CO2 emission per year!
RE: helco to clean up emissions - Norm - 11-16-2012
How Dangerous is the SO2 from Pele ? Why not use it to power Helco
RE: helco to clean up emissions - rainyjim - 11-16-2012
I don't know exactly how the PGV works but aren't they essentially getting a lot of cheap energy from pele and selling it to Helco for way cheaper than what we pay?
Does the PGV place use SO2?
Cheers
rainyjim
RE: helco to clean up emissions - oink - 11-16-2012
pahoated, ya better get that community education program going quickly.
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
RE: helco to clean up emissions - pahoated - 11-16-2012
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RE: helco to clean up emissions - Wuzzerdad - 11-16-2012
I was for it, but that was before I was against it...
I started out with nothing and I still have most of it.
Mahalo
Rick
RE: helco to clean up emissions - Carey - 11-16-2012
Kohala Center put together a fairly decent overview of energy on island a few years ago....
http://www.kohalacenter.org/pdf/analysis_and_recommendations.pdf