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Hawaii residents want pesticide alert!! - ElysianWort - 04-26-2018
Many of us do NOT support the use of pesticides on/in our beloved Aina.
A bunch of residents in Maui and Kauai are trying to help all of us out by testifying in support of a pesticide regulation ban that would force users who spray the noxious chemicals, to make an announcement to the public before doing so.
I hope this spreads to regulating herbicides too.
Opponents say that E.P.A. has fully tested and vetted these chemicals and they are deemed as "safe". I say HOGWASH!
Anyone with a brain larger than a walnut can realize the dangers of spraying this stuff. The E.P.A. cannot be corrupt and influenced by the big chemical companies right? LOL!!
So what, the keiki at schools who got sick after smelling the chemicals sprayed at nearby farms, what they are all lying to get out of school?
The reality is none of them are safe, especially the pesticides but I say herbicides too including Roundup.
http://www.kitv.com/story/37488487/maui-and-kauai-residents-speak-out-about-pesticides
RE: Hawaii residents want pesticide alert!! - PaulW - 04-26-2018
You can have your own opinion but not your own facts.
RE: Hawaii residents want pesticide alert!! - Andy - 04-26-2018
Hey Elysian....how about a peer reviewed scientific article to prove your point? Links please
RE: Hawaii residents want pesticide alert!! - geochem - 04-26-2018
Paranoia is not a good regulatory framework....
"We consume more carcinogens in one cup of coffee than we get from the pesticide residues on all the fruits and vegetables we eat in a year" Bruce Ames, one of the most cited scientists in world for his work on chemical toxicity. (https://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/97legacy/11_01_97a.html)
RE: Hawaii residents want pesticide alert!! - kalakoa - 04-26-2018
"Smells bad" = subjective interpretation.
"Children sick, sent to hospital" = exaggerated coincidence.
Marijuana dispensaries not allowed near schools because "think of the children", but spraying chemicals is acceptable "because a Federal agency says they are safe".
Isn't government amazing? They've figured out how to use your own money against you, regardless of the issues or your personal stance thereon.
RE: Hawaii residents want pesticide alert!! - My 2 cents - 04-26-2018
In all fairness, this isn't about proving points about pesticide safety. It's more about respect. Whether pesticides are safe or not comes down to which study you want to believe in, therefore it's all just opinion. If my opinion is that I don't want my child breathing these chemicals, then that opinion should be respected. It should not be up to the farmer next door to decide what my child breathes.
RE: Hawaii residents want pesticide alert!! - kalakoa - 04-26-2018
It should not be up to the farmer next door to decide what my child breathes.
No different than the "rooster farming" issue: the land is zoned for agriculture, schools should obviously be "in town" where zoning precludes large-scale pesticide use.
RE: Hawaii residents want pesticide alert!! - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 04-26-2018
It's more about respect.
I see the chance of a pesticide regulation ban passing, or if one is passed, functioning as effectively as existing laws and proposals that we have concerning... roosters. Roosters are also about respect for neighbors, and look where that gets us.
Questions that will come up over a pesticide ban:
Are the applications made in an area zoned ag?
By the time police show up can it be proved what was sprayed, and even if anything was sprayed?
Portion of Hawaii’s drinking water that comes from underground wells : 9/10
Gallons of raw sewage that leak into the ground from Hawaii cesspools each day : 53,000,000 - Harper's Index
RE: Hawaii residents want pesticide alert!! - PaulW - 04-26-2018
"Whether pesticides are safe or not comes down to which study you want to believe in, therefore it's all just opinion"
There are facts, and there are opinions. They are very different. Policies should be based on facts, not irrational fears based on nothing.
RE: Hawaii residents want pesticide alert!! - kalakoa - 04-26-2018
Policies should be based on facts
Fact: some pesticides are "restricted use" and require protective gear.
I grant that I do not know which pesticides are at issue in this case, but it's a fairly simple exercise to discover which ones were used, and when, and how applied.
http://hdoa.hawaii.gov/pi/ruplist/
Big Island accounts for 20% of all restricted use pesticides in the State.
http://hdoa.hawaii.gov/pi/pest/faq-for-pesticides/
WHAT DO I DO IF I SMELL A STRONG PESTICIDE ODOR?
In urgent situations involving ill-effects and/or evacuation from the area, call 911 immediately and report incident to the Fire and Police Departments. Then contact the Pesticide Branch office in your district to file a complaint.
I'm sure the above policy is merely an "opinion" based on "irrational fears".