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RE: PMAR - kalakoa - 07-21-2016
it is most of this island who are vulnerable to what can happen when you live on a live volcano
As an excuse, volcanic risk is relative, or County wouldn't build nice roads in Kona.
RE: PMAR - alaskyn66 - 07-21-2016
Hualalai is predidicted to erupt within a hundred years. Yet they dont mind building around it..
..And the people bowed and prayed... to the neon God they made...
RE: PMAR - bluesboy - 07-21-2016
i don't know, kalakoa. i think the county treats all volcanic zones pretty equally. i think the main difference are the people of puna are more whiny and out of touch with reality than the rest of the island.
RE: PMAR - kalakoa - 07-21-2016
the people of puna are more whiny and out of touch with reality
Yes, that's totally a valid justification for "the world's largest cul-de-sac".
RE: PMAR - Amrita - 07-23-2016
Imemine (you sound like "oneself" [remember him?] even your nickname I and mine). Please identify your name if you dare since you appear to be running for office so I know to actively vote against you. You don't think we know where we live? You don't get that most of us live in Puna as we want to live in Hawaii but cannot afford anywhere else xcept HOVE? We accept the risk along with the poor infrastructure cause we love the aina.
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Originally posted by imemine
If elected (it’s election season, one can imagine yeah?) I will advocate, tirelessly, for legislation that acknowledges that Kilauea is an active volcano. That it is erupting, and is expected to continue to erupt into the foreseeable future, and that all government policies take into consideration that all but a very small portion of the land within Kilauea’s boundaries is a hazard zone that has the potential for catastrophic eruptive activity within a short period of time. As such all government expenditures shall be limited to the bare necessities required for safe access to and from the homes in the area, a minimum police and fire department presence, and recreational infrastructure, and, going forward the government will not participate in any other infrastructure development.
Further I will insure that a clause is added to all deeds of land in the entire area that must be signed by all land owners upon transfer of title by which they acknowledge the dangers of an active volcano and wave all rights to claims for damages due to volcanic activity, and expectation of governmental services beyond the minimum described above, within an active volcanic zone. All current land owners will be expected to sign said acknowledgement or have their property taken through the imminent domain process.
As part of this legislative act it will be made clear that while it is considered reasonable by some to establish communities within an active volcano’s boundaries that the government itself, to the extent that it does elsewhere, does not condone these activities and as such the citizens are free to do so but entirely at their own risk. As such the government will continue to issue residential building permits and oversee private development in the area but it will not issue permits for commercial development.
RE: PMAR - pahoated - 07-23-2016
I, Me, Mine? That is mighty haole selfish of you.
"Legislation" to recognize Kilauea is an active volcano? Another WTF moment for PW. Passing a law making Kilauea active will go a long way to doing nothing.
The problem is not PW. It's the loony malihini haole that find their way here and come up with the screwiest concepts a screw-loose person can come up with.
Anyway, the PMAR revival effort is probably dead. It seems pretty clear Oahu isn't enamored with Ruderman, and they are going to give him the stink-eye treatment. He will get a whole bunch more studies as a concession prize.
It only recently occurred to me, the reason we need a $30-million library in Kea'au is to store all the studies. If it is 3 stories tall and about half a block in area, that may be enough volume to store all those valuable studies (well, valuable when you consider how much has and is being spent on them).
*Japanese tourist on bus through Pahoa, "Is this still America?*
RE: PMAR - kalakoa - 07-23-2016
we need a $30-million library in Kea'au is to store all the studies
What we really need is a $50M park where we can relax and unwind after reading all those studies.
RE: PMAR - randomq - 07-23-2016
Why be so vehicle-centric? Has anyone considered a water-slide from HVNP down the forest reserve side of the subdivisions and off a big ramp near maku'u?
Sincerely, loony malihini haole.
RE: PMAR - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-23-2016
a water-slide from HVNP down the forest reserve side... and off a big ramp near maku'u?
Now you're talking! And make it geo-thermally heated so you don't get a chill on rainy days, or in winter.
“What we take to be true is what we believe. What we believe is based upon our perceptions. What we perceive depends on what we look for. What we look for depends on what we think. What we think depends on what we perceive. What we perceive determines what we believe. What we believe determines what we take to be true. What we take to be true is our reality." -David Bohm
RE: PMAR - kalakoa - 07-23-2016
Why be so vehicle-centric?
I wonder the same thing, all the time.
If my subdivision had a couple of corner stores, I could walk or ride a bicycle or dirtbike or quad (yes technically "vehicles").
As it stands, every trip, even to the nearest corner store, means going out to the highway with all of its State and County jurisdiction.
But, you know, like, whatever, nobody cares, so I'll learn not to care either.