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RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - eightfingers2.0 - 07-17-2020
...and that will Ige and Kim’s legacy to Hawaii.
RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - TomK - 07-18-2020
I'm currently having my work email spammed by TMT protesters. Several hundred emails so far today since just after midday. After the first few dozen, they are automatically being sent to the spam folder. This is not a good way to convince people to support the protests against the TMT. All it will do is piss off those that get spammed, especially those who have no direct connection with the TMT.
RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - randomq - 07-18-2020
Even my local co-workers call the protesters pilau. The governor must be an idiot to kowtow to them, knowing how little they represent actual working, voting citizens.
RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - eightfingers2.0 - 07-18-2020
Problem is the “actual working, voting citizens” are invisible. I’m not real sure many of them vote either.
RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - terracore - 07-18-2020
(07-18-2020, 07:50 AM)TomK Wrote: I'm currently having my work email spammed by TMT protesters. Several hundred emails so far today since just after midday. After the first few dozen, they are automatically being sent to the spam folder. This is not a good way to convince people to support the protests against the TMT. All it will do is piss off those that get spammed, especially those who have no direct connection with the TMT.
The electronic version of a toddler throwing a tantrum.
RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-18-2020
I'm currently having my work email spammed by TMT protesters.
Good to hear from you TomK, although regrettably on a difficult day at work.
It's unfortunate the protesters, with time enough on their hands to send pointless and unproductive emails, choose not to volunteer their skills toward helping the Native Hawaiian people. Instead, they litter the electonic ain'a with their trash, once again leaving it for someone else to clean up the mess.
RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - TomK - 07-19-2020
This attack is not a huge deal if you discover it early - I have roughly two thousand emails that have been sent to my spam folder, so it's not interfering with work, but others may not be so fortunate. Given it's still continuing I'm surprised UH hasn't blocked the relevant domain, but in any case, I think this is a Denial of Service (DoS) attack and the organizer of it should face legal consequences.
RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-22-2020
... and Mauna Kea Access Road begat Hana Highway...
East Maui residents have set up a private checkpoint on Hana Highway:
Community volunteers have set up their own checkpoints for vehicles making the trek along the long and windy road into the isolated community. Volunteers stopped cars to inform visitors about the lack of restrooms, and limited resources for hand washing. The community is doing their best to keep coronavirus out of the small town, and prevent an outbreak as medical care there is also limited.
“Hana Highway Regulation”* says it counted 206 visitor vehicles going into Hana on Sunday.
Their Own Highway Checkpoint
* my quote
RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-30-2020
Remember when Governor Ige & Mayor Kim tossed a hot potato back and forth over who should, or should not arrest protestors illegally blocking a public road on Mauna Kea? Apparently our political leaders are slow learners:
Governor vs Mayor Redux
Gov. David Ige has asked all mayors to consider closing bars for a second round of shutdowns. He indicated that he agrees with Caldwell’s request to close bars for three weeks, but did not yet issue an official mandate.
RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - kalakoa - 07-30-2020
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/07/30/hawaii-news/start-of-tmt-construction-may-be-delayed-3-years/
According to the memo, the TMT’s recent move to join up with the Giant Magellan Telescope and the U.S. National Optical-Infrared Laboratory to obtain major funding from the National Science Foundation will trigger a federal environmental impact statement and National Historic Preservation Act Section 106 consultation.
Kealoha Pisciotta, Mauna Kea Hui leader, said Wednesday that her group and others who oppose the TMT are prepared to challenge the project’s federal EIS and National Historic Preservation Act consultations.
The UC memo also suggests the project isn’t expected to achieve “first light” until about 2033. If that’s true, the TMT might not be planning to commence the expected decade-long construction until 2023.
The master lease held by the University of Hawaii for the Mauna Kea astronomy zone expires in 2033 and there is no guarantee it will be renewed. UH is working on renewing the lease, but there is a risk the site won’t be available beyond 2033.
The protectors are winning. Too bad they couldn't win at something that creates jobs or revenue or food or education or a tax base.