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RE: Disturbing, racist post - punaticbychoice - 01-03-2011
Mauka:
Like your 15:25:03 post.
Sly, but but point made. Nice zinger.
A rather good one too.
RE: Disturbing, racist post - Guest - 01-03-2011
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OMG,
This is getting so funny I may pee myself. Explain a joke, do you really mean that? Well OK, let me put it this way, and oh, was that just you that called be a bonehead? Another insult to add to the list of insults that you folks of high morals like to use.
Here is an explanation, it may not be what you want but, an explanation never the less.
Have you ever been with a group of people or at a comedy show and someone told a joke? The whole group or the audience begins to laugh hysterically except you or maybe one other person?
Now you or the other person says, “I don’t get it, I just don’t get it.” Others look at you and even start laughing harder while you just scratch your head in bewilderment with a dumbfounded or “boneheaded” look on your face. Well that is my explanation, most people get it but you may never “get it”. Your bonehead is way to cluttered with predigest and hate to ever get it.
“I tell you now-a-days some people just aren’t bright enough to lace-up their own punkins”
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RE: Disturbing, racist post - Guest - 01-03-2011
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RE: Disturbing, racist post - Guest - 01-03-2011
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RE: Disturbing, racist post - John S. Rabi - 01-03-2011
quote:I decided to quit this thread and will not post in it anymore. If you seriously believe I attacked you than I should seriously believe you attacked me just as well about my Asian wife!
Originally posted by Mauka
Can you see the irony here. How do you feel, John Rabi, about The Lack's personal attack on another poster?
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RE: Disturbing, racist post - konadave - 01-03-2011
quote:
Originally posted by freestate
@Konadave
Looking at the definitions of racism you supplied; the first two don't contain the word hate. Hate is not a necessary component of racism.
True. My original intent was sort of to combine all three definitions. To simplify my point I latched on to the hatred definition since most everyone will understand this feeling. It really doesn't matter which definition one chooses as no one here can provide any proof that The Lack is a racist. The real point I am trying to make here is that people are using the word racist without the proper understanding of makes someone a racist. We have word definitions for a reason and that is so we can all use words in their proper context. Let's face it, if words are not used in their proper context then there cannot be meaningful communication nor a meeting of the minds. However, after explaining this to many here they continue to use words out of context or make up their own definitions of words. So from this I can only conclude that they have no intention to have meaningful conversation.
quote:This is not what I was trying to say. I was replying to something that CSGray had written. I don't believe it came off that way but if you feel it did then I can tell you that is not what I was trying to say. I was saying that telling racial jokes doesn't cause genocide. If my memory serves me correctly she was saying that telling racial jokes leads up to genocide. If that were the case we would have committed genocide here in the U.S. after every Richard Pryor show. [
Originally posted by freestate
It sounds that by your idea of what constitutes racism you must condone or participate in genocide. Simply having blanket beliefs that cover all or most of an ethnic group is racist, you don't have to say you hate them.
]quote:Here is where I completely agree with you. If you make a similar statement about a particular (insert ethnicity here) and not a blanket statement then you are making a racial statement not a racist statement.
Originally posted by freestate
i.e. "I believe (insert ethnicity here) are dumb and lazy, I don't hate them; they're just dumb and lazy" or "I think (insert ethnicity here) are loudmouth know-it-alls, they're not all bad but most of them never shut up"
quote:I disagree with you here. I believe that racist beliefs are not hateful if you don't propagate them. But are hateful if you do.
Originally posted by freestate
Those are racist beliefs, but aren't hateful. At least a person that holds such thoughts doesn't think so.
quote:I agree he is an instigator and I have no idea if he is a racist either. And I agree that telling a racial joke doesn't help prove he isn't and doesn't prove he is. But I disagree with your term of him telling a "racist" joke. I believe that if someone tells a "racial" or "ethnic" joke it is just a joke and it is not meant to be taken seriously. But I believe there cannot be such a thing as a "racist" joke. Let me explain. I believe that if a non-racist tells an ethnic joke it is nothing more than a joke. And therefore cannot be called a "racist" joke. But if a racist tells the same joke he is in fact telling what he feels to be the truth and is attempting to propagate his hate. Which of course is not a joke at all. So I feel a "racist" joke is not a joke but the truth as the racist sees it.
Originally posted by freestate
Tom is an instigator, I have no idea if he is a racist. He made a racist joke, so it doesn't help prove he isn't a racist but it doesn't definitively make him one.
quote:
Originally posted by freestate
As far as I can tell the dividing line of racial joke from racist joke is one lampoons the idea of racial stereotypes and the other is supposedly "funny because its true!"
While this an interesting and witty explanation if it is being told as a truth I don't think I would find it funny. JMHO
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RE: Disturbing, racist post - Guest - 01-03-2011
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RE: Disturbing, racist post - konadave - 01-03-2011
quote:I disagree. I believe the title of your post says it all "Sad, Racist Post". You are in fact calling what The Lack wrote as racist. What does that make The Lack? Don't bother to answer it was a rhetorical question. And don't bother to try and weasel out from underneath the truth. Calling what someone says as being racist is in fact calling them a racist.
Originally posted by Mauka
...Also, please note, as I have stated before, I NEVER called anyone a name or made a personal attack...
I am with John, I feel that your calling The Lack a racist without any proof and continuing to do so is in fact playing the race card and spreading a different form of racism. Let's face it, there was no talk of racism whatsoever in the BB gun post. You started it in this post. You are in fact the spreader of racism as you started it in this post with the title! These are facts not in question.
I feel that Rob has let this post go on way too long. I feel this post should have been deleted immediately. This really is the most offensive thing I have ever seen posted in a forum. I will no longer participate either.
So have at me Mauka. You can spread your non factual feelings about me to your hearts content.
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RE: Disturbing, racist post - Guest - 01-03-2011
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RE: Disturbing, racist post - Paikikala Puna - 01-03-2011
Thanks for clearing that up for us Lack... No hate coming from here just calling it like it reads. You're quite the comedian, were all in stitches here.
I'm done with this, no time for old tired angry guy, got a life to get back to.