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RE: PGV had a plant failure today and a release. - Guest - 10-14-2016
PGV had already settled For a $76,000 fine with the EPA at the beginning of this year.
http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/news/2016/01/12/epa-fines-hawaii-s-puna-geothermal-venture-for.html
Perhaps it's the PGV that enjoys the drama and attention?
RE: PGV had a plant failure today and a release. - Tink - 10-14-2016
Simple question: would you deal with a release valve doing its job popping once and a while when too much steam is suddenly generated underground, or rather have a large explosion from the trapped steam underground that splits the earth open and hurls rock and debris for miles?
I ask this because I personally don't think the plant is going to shut down anytime soon, or payout to anybody who complains. The only payouts I have ever heard about is when somebody dies.
Edit to add: I am neither for or against PGV, but glad that there are some safety measures in place, and the EPA responds accordingly.
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RE: PGV had a plant failure today and a release. - Punatic007 - 10-14-2016
quote:
Originally posted by gypsy69
PGV had already settled For a $76,000 fine with the EPA at the beginning of this year.
http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/news/2016/01/12/epa-fines-hawaii-s-puna-geothermal-venture-for.html
Perhaps it's the PGV that enjoys the drama and attention?
"In August 2013, the EPA did a chemical facility inspection and found that Puna Geothermal had failed to take necessary steps to prevent accidental releases of hydrogen sulfide.
The company, which is owned by Nevada’s Ormat Technologies Inc., had not tested and inspected its equipment enough, the EPA said, noting that its inspectors also found that, with respect to Puna Geothermal’s storage, use and handling of pentane, a flammable substance used as a working fluid in the facility’s electricity producing turbines, the company failed to conduct periodic compliance audits of its accident prevention program and document that identified deficiencies have been corrected, among other issues."
This crap has been going on for decades. I find it so bizarre and disenchanting that there's this little crowd of PGV supporters who incessantly post here on Punaweb. Seems they love to attack gypsy69 and anyone who questions the safety of PGV, a dangerous heavy industry plopped right down in the middle of Puna bordering private residential properties with no buffer zone for schools, business and homes.
RE: PGV had a plant failure today and a release. - kalakoa - 10-15-2016
This crap has been going on for decades.
Figure 1: Puna is full of "crap has been going on for decades".
dangerous heavy industry plopped right down in the middle of Puna bordering private residential properties with no buffer zone
Not defending PGV's safety issues, but the "faux zoning" and its lack of buffer zones isn't PGV's fault. County created that problem, it's up to County to solve it, and the fact that they don't says it all -- see Figure 1.
RE: PGV had a plant failure today and a release. - Obie - 10-15-2016
"PGV had already settled For a $76,000 fine with the EPA at the beginning of this year."
To put this fine into perspective you should click on the following link :
https://www.epa.gov/enforcement/enforcement-annual-results-fiscal-year-fy-2015
You will note many million dollar fines so PGV's is very minor and has to do with not filing the proper paperwork rather than an actual physical event.If you click on the case map and find the Big Island you will see that the Pahoa Village Cafe was assessed a larger fine than PGV. It was because of an illegal cesspool !
RE: PGV had a plant failure today and a release. - PaulW - 10-15-2016
"there's this little crowd of PGV supporters who incessantly post here on Punaweb"
Quite the opposite. Nobody mentions it until Gypsy pipes up again about how bad it is, destroying his health, killing trees, rotten egg smell in his car etc, yet he won't move even when being offered money to do so. Some people are just anti-technology and love complaining.
RE: PGV had a plant failure today and a release. - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 10-15-2016
Pahoa Village Cafe was assessed a larger fine than PGV. It was because of an illegal cesspool !
Where is Robert Petricci of Puna Pono Alliance when we need him most, to penetrate and brave the vaporous odors with his methane measuring equipment? Methane in downtown Pahoa is not pono, it might explode! Illegal methane might be even more dangerous in ways we can only fabricate and imagine!! Perhaps the recent bad smells around Pahoa schools originated at the Cafe, as it's much closer to schools than PGV???
RE: PGV had a plant failure today and a release. - kalakoa - 10-15-2016
Methane in downtown Pahoa is not pono, it might explode!
One might also ask: why are these commercial uses allowed right next to a residential area without any buffer zones?
It's even "real" residential zoning, not the "fake ag subdivision" kind.
RE: PGV had a plant failure today and a release. - Kapoho Joe - 10-15-2016
We are not so much pro-PGV as we are anti-Gypsy(69 dude, yeah).
RE: PGV had a plant failure today and a release. - Guest - 10-15-2016
KJ, here is something of real concern from your neck of the Aina.
http://westhawaiitoday.com/news/local-news/dead-fish-kapoho-tide-pools-puzzle-researcher-trouble-neighbors
Any new findings, answers, or ongoing studies to what may have caused this massive coral and fish kill?
I find it very sad that a better display of Hawaiian reef fish can now be seen at the local PGV plant than in those Kapoho Tide pools. So much precious life has been lost from the ocean environment in Kapoho in the past decade it should be very troubling to some. jmo