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RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - Paddleman - 01-14-2025
(01-14-2025, 06:28 PM)HiloJulie Wrote:Could you clarify the "I've got nothing to hide" crowd, four (4) separate and distinct keystrokes to set your profile "hidden", you like to "hide" in the bushes comments. I am new to PunaWeb and I am not sure if I set up my profile the same way and how or why this matters. How do I look at Tutu808 profile because when I click on her comment nothing pops up so I'm curious on how you researched it and where you got your information. I'm just curious and trying to educate myself about the this site. Mahalo in advance(01-14-2025, 06:04 PM)Tutu808 Wrote: Hilo Julie - I’m assuming that you are a licensed attorney in Hawaii since you seem to be providing legal advice/opinion to the posters here. Brava for pro bono work! However, any “attorney worth their salt” and who has actually done the legal research would know that the arbitration clause in the HPPOA bylaws is not valid and not binding on any of the HPPOA owners. That is why the lawsuit was permitted to proceed without arbitration. As for “not being versed in the entirety of this lawsuit,” perhaps you should “get versed” before giving legal opinions. Just a thought…
Thank you Tutu808 for your first post on PunaWeb!
I see you too have also joined the ranks of the “I got nothing to hide” crowd, yet you went through the four (4) separate and distinct keystrokes to set your profile to “hidden.”
Nonetheless, welcome aboard!
To be clear, I am NOT a licensed attorney in Hawaii. So, your assumption on that is wrong.
Further, as I have stated, I am not versed in the entirety of this lawsuit, thus, I gave my frank honest opinion of the matter and further as I have also stated, I have no “skin in this game.” I am not a resident of HPP. I am contributing to this issue here on PunaWeb as a person, just like you and just as you did here on your first post.
Again, even though you like to “hide” in the bushes, welcome to PunaWeb!
"b) Ratification of Renewal of agreement for Ted Hong, Attorney for Foreclosures"
Let's be clear on that, as it clearly has some confused.
In as much as HPPOA CANNOT (ETA: Well, they can actually. But it's a whole different ballgame than just a lien filing. And it would cost the Association upwards of 5 to 10K) foreclose on someone's property due to nonpayment of road fees, the Bank that holds any mortgage, or perhaps maybe there is an IRS lien or the like, could indeed foreclose.
However, that being said, in the matter of any foreclosure by a bank etc., HPPOA has a vested interest in that property as to any unpaid road fee assessments and/or I do believe when a property "changes hands" in HPP there is a transfer fee to be paid.
Ted Hong's retainer agreement would be to represent HPPOA in those circumstances and is not there to steal poor grandma's home for 500 dollars of unpaid road assessment fees!
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - Tutu808 - 01-14-2025
(01-14-2025, 06:28 PM)HiloJulie Wrote: I see you too have also joined the ranks of the “I got nothing to hide” crowd, yet you went through the four (4) separate and distinct keystrokes to set your profile to “hidden.”
. I am contributing to this issue here on PunaWeb as a person, just like you and just as you did here on your first post.
Again, even though you like to “hide” in the bushes, welcome to PunaWeb!
I don’t understand what you are saying about me being in the “I got nothing to hide” crowd - what does that mean? Interesting that you are fixated on how many keystrokes it took for me to set my profile to “hidden.”. I don’t even know how to work this PunaWeb thing since it is my first time here so I don’t even know how I did that. Is there something nefarious to marking one’s profile hidden? If so, I’m happy to change that, although I’m not sure what seeing my profile would tell you anything about me?
Why are you saying that I like to “hide” in the bushes? Why is it such a big deal that this is my first post?
You are getting pretty close to bullying and trying to intimidate me to shut me up, so I would ask that you keep it professional, especially if you’re an attorney somewhere.
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - MyManao - 01-14-2025
(01-14-2025, 06:04 PM)Tutu808 Wrote: Just a thought…
Welcome Tutu to the PunaWeb bar and grill.
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Too many infractions of Punaweb rules to list.
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.. enjoy the show.
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - HiloJulie - 01-14-2025
Paddleman and Tutu808 (and anyone else)
First, as I write this Paddleman, your profile is not hidden.
Now, claiming that one does not know how their profile got set to hidden is like claiming the park bench just jumped out and hit your car.
As to me personally, I find that one who does indeed go through the 4 separate keystrokes it takes to set your profile to hidden speaks to their real sincerity. To me, it immediately reeks of "troublemaker."
Now, to be clear, I don't expect anyone to publish their full names, addresses, city, state, zip and phone number.
But, when your profile is hidden, no one can see if you are online when you are online. So, it's the equivalent of hiding in the bushes.
And to Tutu808, I have been nothing but professional in what I have said here on PunaWeb. Yes, I stand up to and I will confront inane and/or flat-out wrong comments being made. I will say, there are some who disagree with me and thus immediately jump to the I am being "mean," or "bullying" or other such comments, but I have in no way bullied ANYONE on PunaWeb. If you, or anyone else thinks I am bullying you, that is just a cop out excuse because you simply don't agree with me. And disagreeing with me is just fine - that's where debate begins, but it ends when the immediate response is "you're bullying me."
But to now make your second post here on PunaWeb and claim I am bullying you and trying to make you shut up - well, I then will ask - how fast was the park bench going when it hit your car?
At any event, keep up with PunaWeb! It can be a fun, informative and fun thing to do! And I have no intention of shutting anyone up.
That's Rob's and Moderator 2's job!
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - Moderator 2 - 01-14-2025
You are getting pretty close to bullying and trying to intimidate me
Patricia has asked me to reveal my name, repeatedly, implying there was something to hide. There is some similarity between that and HiloJulie’s comment.
Feel free to disagree, but neither comment is an earth shattering conspiratorial event.
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - Tutu808 - 01-14-2025
(01-14-2025, 08:32 PM)Moderator 2 Wrote: You are getting pretty close to bullying and trying to intimidate me
Patricia has asked me to reveal my name, repeatedly, implying there was something to hide. There is some similarity between that and HiloJulie’s comment.
Feel free to disagree, but neither comment is an earth shattering conspiratorial event.
Agree. You have one tough job!!
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - Patricia - 01-14-2025
Can we PLEASE get back to issues? Like the roads, road fee money, substandard subdivisions, etc.?
I do not care who is "hiding in the bushes?" (Every time I hear that line, I think of Sean Spencer.)
I do not care who M2 really is. The only thing about M2 that concerns me is that they do not always seem to "play fair."
I do not care about MylittleMan's insecurities and bullying. That person is never going to change.
A lot of "contributor's" seem to break PW rules. But as I said, enforcement seems lacks and most of us will just learn to tolerate and accept it.
Name-calling is rampant and juvenile, and people tend to use it when they feel frustrated or put in a corner (hence, "lapdogs"). AND I doubt there is an effective way to stop name-calling, unless PW just bans everyone.
So, how about we just acknowledge that some of us are more juvenile and insecure than others and let it go? Not worth the time or effort, and distracts from the topics and real issues.
BACK TO BUSINESS
***Footnote: EVERYONE can see who I am. As I use my REAL name. And I prefer not to think of MylittleMan as name calling. It's more like a "pet" name- the same way MylittleMan calls me "Pat."
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - Moderator 2 - 01-14-2025
The only thing about M2 that concerns me is that they do not always seem to "play fair."
Sometimes there is a cop on the side of the road when you’re driving 15 mph over the speed limit.
Sometimes there’s not.
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - Patricia - 01-14-2025
(01-14-2025, 09:04 PM)Moderator 2 Wrote: The only thing about M2 that concerns me is that they do not always seem to "play fair."
Sometimes there is a cop on the side of the road when you’re driving 15 mph over the speed limit.
Sometimes there’s not.
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Fair enough.
Sometimes there is a cop that witnesses a break-in. Sometimes there's not. But if the cop is presented with facts and enough evidence (even after the fact) an arrest can still be made.
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - HiloJulie - 01-14-2025
(01-14-2025, 08:58 PM)Patricia Wrote: Can we PLEASE get back to issues? Like the roads, road fee money, substandard subdivisions, etc.?
Excellent idea! Wish I would have thought of that.
At any event, I was wondering how you were coming along on this question I asked:
(01-13-2025, 02:59 AM)Patricia Wrote: And HiloJulie, thank you. I would love to discuss options for funding non-road projects. If you can be patient though, that would be much appreciated. My day has kind of caught up with me and I still have a bunch to do.
Thanking you, again, in advance!
Julie