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RE: Hawaiian Acres Issues - wolverine2 - 04-13-2015
quote:
Originally posted by Lee M-S
A large portion of lot owners don’t pay dues—think about what their reasons might be:
1) can’t afford it (it’s not much money, but some people don’t have that much to spare);
2) don’t see a benefit—absentee owners, people with rental properties, folks who don’t use the CC;
3) don’t like HACA-related people they’ve encountered over the years;
4) don’t feel like they have a say in where the money is spent (I used to pay my dues and go to meetings. At each meeting, a particular board member held a bunch of proxies, so whatever she wanted got passed.);
5) don’t care.
Perhaps addressing some of those issues would help to increase membership. Here are some ideas, numbered to match the reasons above:
1) Maybe have a lottery, giving away one or two free memberships each year so people can participate.
2) Find out what people would like, perhaps through local meetings, or mailers.
3) Demonstrate that things have changed for the better.
4) See #3
5) Leave them alone.
HACA is a community association. It should try to benefit the entire community, not just run a community center.
I thought of a couple things I’d like HACA to do:
--Put the rock sign back up on Kulani. I’d donate $30 specifically toward this.
--Post information about meetings—times, agendas, minutes—on the HA listserve (I’ve asked for this before, and it was done once or twice). This could increase interest in what’s going on, and demonstrate that things have changed (see #3 and 4 above).
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lee ,, can you think of five or more benefits of paying dues ?
down play the neg , and polish up the pos.
RE: Hawaiian Acres Issues - birchl - 04-13-2015
lee
the rock is being put back up. not just the one at kalani, although that is first 'coz it went down first , but also the one 'the other end'. additionally we are in the middle of revamping the web site and hope to have it up and running with the changes you mention. we are doing our best to approach things with open minds and hearts.#10048;
RE: Hawaiian Acres Issues - Lee M-S - 04-13-2015
That's great!
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RE: Hawaiian Acres Issues - Lee M-S - 04-13-2015
W, I'm not being negative. That post you quoted looks at reasons people don't pay dues, and what might be done to increase membership. That's what needs to be done to improve the usefulness and effectiveness of HACA.
A lot of this discussion seems to be "I like it, so it must be good for everybody." Well, I'm happy you found something you like, but you also need to listen to what other people say, and not dismiss them as "negative".
Focusing solely on the CC hasn't gotten a groundswell of membership. It's time to find out what people actually want.
And why don't YOU tell ME five reasons to pay dues that have nothing to do with the CC? That's what I'm looking for.
quote:
Originally posted by wolverine2
lee ,, can you think of five or more benefits of paying dues ?
down play the neg , and polish up the pos.
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RE: Hawaiian Acres Issues - cfscott - 04-13-2015
What kinds of services are you looking for in return for $2.50 a month?
RE: Hawaiian Acres Issues - wolverine2 - 04-13-2015
And why don't YOU tell ME five reasons to pay dues that have nothing to do with the CC? That's what I'm looking for.
quote:
Originally posted by wolverine2
lee ,, can you think of five or more benefits of paying dues ?
down play the neg , and polish up the pos.
1.vol. fire dept.
2.matching funds.
3.nieghborhood watch.
4.schoolbus stops.
5.signage ( entrance stones and stop signs ).
6.grafitti removal.
7.good neighborhoods and good neighbors ( one minor exception ).
8. free trash bags , for collecting the trash that the homeless and hungry from Hilo , throw around on our roads.
9.paved access road , no.1 and no. 8
10.pizza place right here in the acres.
11.upkeep and maintenance for 75 miles of roads.
12.a great place ,( for the haters to hate and the trolls to tear down )lord knows we cant allow our trolls to go to hilo to hate ,,
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RE: Hawaiian Acres Issues - kalakoa - 04-14-2015
the rock is being put back up. not just the one at kalani
Kuauli rock appears to be "in the road", which is County (formerly Limbo, code green on RIL inventory). I consider this a County responsibility (permitting and maintenance).
9.paved access road , no.1 and no. 8
Road 8 ("theoretically") maintained with public funds, not HACA/HARC.
RE: Hawaiian Acres Issues - Lee M-S - 04-14-2015
Thanks, Wolverine2!
That's a great list, and partly what I've been looking for in this thread: what does HACA do?
Although I'll quibble that #2, 9, & 11 are funded by HARC (except Road 8, which is county maintained). And #10 is privately run.
quote:
Originally posted by wolverine2
1.vol. fire dept.
2.matching funds.
3.nieghborhood watch.
4.schoolbus stops.
5.signage ( entrance stones and stop signs ).
6.grafitti removal.
7.good neighborhoods and good neighbors ( one minor exception ).
8. free trash bags , for collecting the trash that the homeless and hungry from Hilo , throw around on our roads.
9.paved access road , no.1 and no. 8
10.pizza place right here in the acres.
11.upkeep and maintenance for 75 miles of roads.
12.a great place ,( for the haters to hate and the trolls to tear down )lord knows we cant allow our trolls to go to hilo to hate ,,
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RE: Hawaiian Acres Issues - wolverine2 - 04-14-2015
quote:
Originally posted by Lee M-S
Thanks, Wolverine2!
That's a great list, and partly what I've been looking for in this thread: what does HACA do?
Although I'll quibble that #2, 9, & 11 are funded by HARC (except Road 8, which is county maintained). And #10 is privately run.
quote:
Originally posted by wolverine2
1.vol. fire dept.
2.matching funds.
3.nieghborhood watch.
4.schoolbus stops.
5.signage ( entrance stones and stop signs ).
6.grafitti removal.
7.good neighborhoods and good neighbors ( one minor exception ).
8. free trash bags , for collecting the trash that the homeless and hungry from Hilo , throw around on our roads.
9.paved access road , no.1 and no. 8
10.pizza place right here in the acres.
11.upkeep and maintenance for 75 miles of roads.
12.a great place ,( for the haters to hate and the trolls to tear down )lord knows we cant allow our trolls to go to hilo to hate ,,
thanks lee ,,, we certainly wouldn't want to quibble ,,, and im sure that you could think of other positive aspects of the acres .
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RE: Hawaiian Acres Issues - Laurie - 04-15-2015
quote:Seems pretty obvious that our community non-profits are very beneficial to many folks! We can improve on this list by supporting HACA & HARC. $30/yr. $60/yr. You can even pay online!
Originally posted by wolverine2
quote:
Originally posted by Lee M-S
Thanks, Wolverine2!
That's a great list, and partly what I've been looking for in this thread: what does HACA do?
Although I'll quibble that #2, 9, & 11 are funded by HARC (except Road 8, which is county maintained). And #10 is privately run.
quote:
Originally posted by wolverine2
1.vol. fire dept.
2.matching funds.
3.nieghborhood watch.
4.schoolbus stops.
5.signage ( entrance stones and stop signs ).
6.grafitti removal.
7.good neighborhoods and good neighbors ( one minor exception ).
8. free trash bags , for collecting the trash that the homeless and hungry from Hilo , throw around on our roads.
9.paved access road , no.1 and no. 8
10.pizza place right here in the acres.
11.upkeep and maintenance for 75 miles of roads.
12.a great place ,( for the haters to hate and the trolls to tear down )lord knows we cant allow our trolls to go to hilo to hate ,,
thanks lee ,,, we certainly wouldn't want to quibble ,,, and im sure that you could think of other positive aspects of the acres .
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