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RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - leilanidude - 07-17-2019

What I find difficult to understand is that as the protesters who were under the tents were arrested (the tents were in the road) others came into the tent and took their places. Why did the police allow others to do this in the first place?


RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-17-2019

From Blaze Lovell on Twitter:

So what does this emergency proclamation, in practice, actually do? Not much more than what's happening now on #MaunaKea, but it grants some important powers and suspends certain rules. Let's take a look

It invokes HRS 127A-13 and 127A-12, which grants the governor broad powers typically reserved for things like natural disasters. Here, Ige doesn't use the full extent of that statute, and only suspends laws necessary to carry out activities for #TMT

Such as suspending HRS 46, which grants basic powers to counties. This could make it easier to operate without running up against Hawaii County


Looks like the state will take charge from here on out.


RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - ironyak - 07-17-2019

The text of the Emergency Proclamation is here:
https://governor.hawaii.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/1907086-Mauna-Kea.pdf

Invokes good ole 127A, including our old friend 127a-13a allowing the "mandatory evacuation of the civilian population" as used during the recent lava flows to force people out (for their own good). Turns out leilanidude, you potentially do have something in common with the protesters!


RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - glinda - 07-17-2019

Come on fellow scientists, you can do better than this?

Sorry ironyak, science is an emotional sport hereabouts.


RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - BillyB - 07-17-2019

Anyone know if there is a open or closed on line posting for saddle road,or number to call. I don't want to get stuck on the way to work in Kona tomorrow morning.


RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - TomK - 07-17-2019

BillyB, if you haven't signed up for civil defense or Nixle alerts via email or text, your best bet is probably:

http://www.hawaiicounty.gov/archived-alerts/
https://local.nixle.com/hawaii-police-department/


RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - TomK - 07-17-2019

What a bizarre day. All I can do is paraphrase someone from the Institute for Astronomy late this afternoon.

"I can't explain what happened today, I can only describe it".


RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - geochem - 07-17-2019


Sadly, that's true for most Hawaii government actions any more...


RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - Chunkster - 07-18-2019

The TMT has now made it into the top six stories on the BBC news home page:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49035815


RE: TMT construction begins Monday 15 July - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-18-2019

Day 4
About 100-200 protestors remain at Mauna Kea Access Road.
At 7:00 AM, no police, DLNR, or national guard.
Photo from Ryan Finnerty, Hawaii Public Radio:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_xZno0U4AEY_RW?format=jpg&name=small