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RE: Proposed New laws for Owner Builders - topograph - 05-01-2013
Passed unanimously
RE: Proposed New laws for Owner Builders - kalakoa - 05-01-2013
Raising the price of housing will drive more people into either "unpermitted" situations or permanent relocation (thus taking their potential tax revenue with them).
Assuming a "real" general contractor would not be required to withhold taxes and/or provide insurance, I dare suggest that the State has invited us all to pay for an expensive lawsuit.
RE: Proposed New laws for Owner Builders - punaticbychoice - 05-02-2013
I think it is all a part of a "gentrification" of Hawaii and Hawai'i for very, very rich mainlanders seeking security from the coming social explosions they are deliberately creating for their own benefit on the mainland.
It is obvious that there is little concern for ordinary people in this State.
RE: Proposed New laws for Owner Builders - Seeb - 05-02-2013
this is nothing about people from the mainland, It's about union protectionism
RE: Proposed New laws for Owner Builders - punaticbychoice - 05-02-2013
I partly agree with you seeb, unions and contractors ride on each others backs,
but I have the long term purpose and cause right.
RE: Proposed New laws for Owner Builders - David M - 05-02-2013
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Originally posted by Seeb
this is nothing about people from the mainland, It's about union protectionism
Agree, this is part of the Gov's program, protect the unions. There aren't enough rich people to elect him. Preschool is same philosophy, pander to his support.
David
Ninole Resident
Please visit vacation.ninolehawaii.com
RE: Proposed New laws for Owner Builders - csgray - 05-03-2013
I don't know a single teacher who will support Abercrombie again, and the teachers were a lot of his real feet on the ground supporters last time around. The union could decide to suppprt him but I don't think they will be able to mobilize many teachers to go out and wave signs this time around. A certain amount of decisions making based on political expediency is standard operating procedure, but he either knew he was making promises he wouldn't keep, or he was hopelessly naive about what he could do once he was in office. Either way I don't think I could hold my nose and vote for him again.
Carol
RE: Proposed New laws for Owner Builders - Peter Epperson - 05-04-2013
I don't really see this law as so much different than the law passed a few years back requiring any work done by an unlicensed contractor to be less than $1000. I never understood that one, it was a compromise decision, but ostensibly the original idea was to protect the homeowner from lawsuits should the employee become injured. It seemed to me that doing $1000 worth of labor would offer lots of opportunities for a laborer to get hurt. You could hire someone to powerwash your roof. They fall off the roof and you are liable for their injuries. I am a licensed contractor and I pay a load of dollars for insurance every year but I sure was thankful for it when one of my employees fell and bonked his head. He was knocked out and when he came to hours later he had complete amnesia for 3 weeks. A hospital stay and lots of follow ups with doctors. He's fine now but I can't imagine what that would have cost me, especially if things had gone worse. I've worked on some jobs for wealthy people that have had many additional requirements to protect themselves. Believe it or not there are some unscrupulous types out there who would like to get hurt on a job while working for wealthy people. I'm not sure what prompted this particular legislation but I suspect that this whole liability issue played a part. Lawmakers and contractors are not entirely evil people.
Some years back, in Puna, a guy was working on a roof and had the foresight to tie himself off in case of a fall. He had a harness and was tied off to the pipe rack of a pickup truck in the driveway. All was fine until his girlfriend jumped into the truck to go make a beer run. Off went the truck and down went the roofer. Life's a bitch.