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RE: Clearing Land in Nanawale - dayna - 03-25-2014
When doing the girdle thing on an albezia I have one word of advice/caution.
It works, really well. The limbs will drop and the tree can/will fall over in heavy winds.
If you have neighbors make sure that the tree cannot fall on their property/fence/house/livestock/small children/etc. If it can, hire a professional to come in and remove the tree. Much cheaper than paying out lawsuits later.
Dayna
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RE: Clearing Land in Nanawale - shave_ice - 03-25-2014
Yeah the strawberry guava/waiwai sucks. I've been clearing small patches of it at a time. It's not the cutting down part that is hard. It is getting the stumps/roots out. The roots seem to interconnect with other trees. Sometimes it seems like all the waiwai are connected to each other by their roots! I've pulled dozed of feet of roots out before, like it is just one endless rope.
riverwolf, the dozed lot near me is on Alii, there is also another one close by on Kapuna, though I'm sure there are many more throughout the subdivision. I guess it wouldn't be so bad, if they were building right away, but sometimes people doze their lot and then disappear? I guess I'm not sure what the point of dozing the whole lot is and then not doing anything with it. Just lets the invasives move in.
RE: Clearing Land in Nanawale - Hotzcatz - 03-25-2014
At some point, if you're planning on building a house (of which the minimum square feet is how much again? Was it 800 square feet?) you'll need a septic tank to go with. If you have the heavy equipment dig the septic hole when making the drive way, that may be a good use of heavy equipment time. I'm sure you don't want to hand dig a septic hole. At least, not in Nanawale.
Kurt Wilson
RE: Clearing Land in Nanawale - kalakoa - 03-26-2014
Almost forgot my favorite Nanavale-ism: the CC&Rs require a larger minimum square footage than County code.
RE: Clearing Land in Nanawale - ssgoering - 03-28-2014
Great advice by all! Anyone have a machete or know where I can buy one? Would Ace Hardware have one?
RE: Clearing Land in Nanawale - ssgoering - 03-31-2014
Well I got a machete, did a lot of neat things with Coconut and Avocado sprouts today. Still have an important question:
I realize surveys are necessary, but for the time being would like to avoid one if at all possible.
Does anyone know if the lots in Nanawale (off of Mauna Kea) go from electricity pole to electricity pole? It is my understanding that their should be two parcels between each pole. Is this true?
RE: Clearing Land in Nanawale - Mimosa - 04-03-2014
Welcome - a few words .
Machete - Garden exchange in Hilo,check each one for balance and how it feels to your arms.
Finding your lot - 1st survey so you absolutely know that you are on correct lot and not the one next to your lot.
I may be mistaken,but think county has some rules on setbacks.
I think 30 feet on front and back and 20feet on the sides as far as clearing so to leave a green scape in case a neighbor starts right next to you.
Clearing - In the farmlots between Nanawale and lava tree state park is a cousin and his company is named Johns landclearing.
He is listed in phone book.
Talk story with John and he may have the perfect answer or answers for you and or know some one who does.
Always work with the operator and definitely clear out the non endemic weeds,as you have mentioned.
Nothing larger than a D4 would be great.
If you do not have to rip,all the better,try get the roots all pushed to the side and save the soil.
If you put the roots or dead tree's in the soil,they will rot and settle,some times,not always,the mold n rot especially from endemic tree's will always be a problem should you plant fruit tree's or other food bearing fauna,they will grow,may always be unhealthy and never bear fruit.
Many endemics are no more than 4 inches high ,so know your fauna.
Hope this is helpful.
RE: Clearing Land in Nanawale - ssgoering - 04-05-2014
When people say "rip and roll" what so they mean exactly?
RE: Clearing Land in Nanawale - kalakoa - 04-05-2014
Setbacks vary with zoning; CC&Rs may "enhance" the required setbacks.
http://www.cohplanningdept.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Setback-Brochure-Rev-08.pdf
Pahoehoe is a solid flow, much like a (very uneven) driveway slab. "Ripping" is the process of breaking this surface, after which it's "rolled" to make the crushed rock flat. End result is something with good drainage that's smooth enough for a riding mower.
RE: Clearing Land in Nanawale - Mimosa - 04-05-2014
When we build,we do some dozing but always leave as much as natural as can,ripping n rolling is good,but settles and in quakes can be like jello.Also attracts peeds ( centipedes )
We rather leave as much natural and put in 2"1/2 or 1" 1/2 filter pahaku ( crushed rock ) in the uneven non level areas.Better for drainage .But for orchards ripping is good and in between the rows,leave the natural contours and fill in with soils or rocks .
Depends on topography though.Every 10ft is a different planet.
When hand clearing we have a buckets for the small stone and one for the worms. Dozing kills worms and wipes out the endemic fauna.
We also hand clear prior to dozing as much as can.