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RE: Puna home invasion earns 10 year sentence - Guest - 05-08-2014
In case you haven't heard of the Castle Doctrine also known as Castle Law..
"Hawaii adopted a castle law in 2010. While the law isn’t as broad as many other states’ castle laws, it removes the duty of residents to retreat when they’re confronted by a criminal inside their home or on their property. The law removes the liability of citizens who use physical or deadly force against criminals who are in the act of committing a list of felonies, including any Class A or Class B felony involving physical violence under Hawaii’s penal code, as well as any felony involving the use of a firearm, involving serious bodily injury or punishable by life in prison. The immunity does not extend to crime victims who are not on their own property."
Also, if you didn't know, home invasion is a Felony, unless its at a party.
RE: Puna home invasion earns 10 year sentence - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 05-08-2014
If you don't hit the guy at a precise 90 degree angle straight in the chest, I'll bring you a pack of smokes while you do time at OCCC. Anything less than a straight on, direct hit and the prosecutor will claim the burglar might have been in the process of turning to flee.
RE: Puna home invasion earns 10 year sentence - csgray - 05-08-2014
"So you all prefer these criminals roaming around your homes, instead of in a pine box ?"
Oneself,
People stating what they think will happen is not the same as stating a preference about what should happen. Maybe you shouldn't let your mindset blind you to what people actually wrote.
Carol
RE: Puna home invasion earns 10 year sentence - 4antares - 05-08-2014
"so you prefer all these criminals roaming around your homes, instead of in a pine box"
A statement of arrogant idiocy. So much for claims of "enlightenment".
life is short. enjoy it
RE: Puna home invasion earns 10 year sentence - Guest - 05-08-2014
A ? means its a QUESTION.
RE: Puna home invasion earns 10 year sentence - Guest - 05-08-2014
quote:
Originally posted by HereOnThePrimalEdge
If you don't hit the guy at a precise 90 degree angle straight in the chest, I'll bring you a pack of smokes while you do time at OCCC. Anything less than a straight on, direct hit and the prosecutor will claim the burglar might have been in the process of turning to flee.
My brain can't even contemplate the absurdity of that statement.
With the HUGE issue Puna has with break in and home invasions, defending your home isn't even a case. And for arguments sake, even if it was, any wet behind the ear recent graduate who just passed bar could defend you.
There is no jury anywhere in the world that is going to find you guilty for defending your home wife and children from a home invasion.
I grew up in CT... ever hear what happened to the family that got home invaded there ?
The Petits. Yea, I used to go to this town. http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/mass/cheshire-murders/1.html
Yea, they didn't have a gun. The guy had to sit tied up while two men raped his daughters and his wife,beat them beyond recognition, and than lit his family on fire while he sat and listened to them scream and burn. His daughters were 11 and 17. RAPED, BEATEN, and SET ON FIRE.
Sorry, keep your can of beans, i'll be pulling the trigger till every last bullet is fired.
If that makes me un-enlightened, what does it make the guy who watches his family suffer ?
RE: Puna home invasion earns 10 year sentence - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 05-08-2014
quote:You don't have to believe something for it to be true.
Originally posted by Oneself
My brain can't even contemplate the absurdity of that statement.
If you don't believe it, and it does turn out to be true, you'll have plenty of time to contemplate absurd statements. Mine as well as others.
RE: Puna home invasion earns 10 year sentence - Guest - 05-08-2014
That reminds me of a great Neil Degrasse Tyson Quote - "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it."
On that note, your post is a hypothetical opinion, not science, and if i get arraigned for defending my home and family, so be it. Better than listening to them getting raped and lit on fire.
RE: Puna home invasion earns 10 year sentence - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 05-08-2014
And speaking of science, let's include math. Statistically, how many break-ins last year included rape and the burning of victims? Just because it happened once, or is a small subset of all break-ins does not mean that is the likely outcome of every burglary to your home.
Here is what could happen. You hear a jalousie window break. You grab your gun and just as you approach the door, the burglar reaches through the broken window, unlocks the door from the inside, enters your home, and you shoot him. That's the best possible outcome for you and your family as none of you are injured. Police arrive and see a single broken window, and a dead guy on the floor. Nothing else unusual, expect the shooter explaining that he was protecting his family from imaginary rape and burning.
Now maybe it's a clear cut crime scene, they haul the guy away and the officers thank you for your cooperation. But if anything seems a little strange, and it goes to a jury, all they will see is a guy got shot dead for breaking a window. Because that's all that happened. And if you start explaining about another case years ago with dire consequences to the victims - - well that didn't happen as far as the jury is concerned. And maybe the guy with the active imagination didn't really know what was going on when he shot the guy at his door.
RE: Puna home invasion earns 10 year sentence - kalakoa - 05-08-2014
Seriously?
Everyone knows you drag the dead burglar back inside your house before calling the cops.