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RE: Highway patrol in Puna? - kalakoa - 09-30-2014
virtually no one lives within walking distance of their favored drinking sites
Neighborhood pubs would help, if such development wouldn't automatically cause unlivable sprawl (with noise and crime for the neighbors, of course).
Meaningful public transportation would be another solution worthy of our tax dollars.
Maybe the free market economy will create an offroad taxi service?
It's great that the police are enforcing, but it seems a little like closing the barn door after the horse has wandered off...
RE: Highway patrol in Puna? - punafish - 09-30-2014
I'm not a big boozer but my favorite drinking site is just steps from my bed. Also much cheaper than drinking at a bar or restaurant.
My only complaint against DUI enforcement is that they don't do enough of it in my neighborhood.
RE: Highway patrol in Puna? - Guest - 09-30-2014
Not saying the police are doing a bad job or that I dislike them. Just not sure the police are prioritizing the use of community dollars that best serves their community? Say that 8-12 cops are on duty, why should more than half be on our 35 mph highway at 1:00 A.M on a Monday night?.
Would a taxi service or community service serve a good purpose in an area like this. The service could be a few vans with designated drivers (maybe police) who would drive and park near bars on tevery half hour after say 10pm. Donations and contributions from bars, police, madd organizations and what not could help in the effort. Your driving privileges in a area like Puna are worth trying new ways to combat old problems.
Be safe everyone and maybe its just the end of the month quota's being earned like you all say.
RE: Highway patrol in Puna? - jrw - 09-30-2014
Why doesn't this go to the puna site instead being here on lava site?
jrw
RE: Highway patrol in Puna? - jrw - 09-30-2014
Sorry I was on wrong place.
jrw
RE: Highway patrol in Puna? - Carey - 09-30-2014
The double line is a temp tape job, as have been all of the wavy lines in the past few years that everyone comments on...they will be replaced with lines that are mo`betta, but the tape lines are placed fast, just to have the markings on the road while over things are done to finish the paving, but to alert drivers of the center lines & other potential hazards. Luckily, since they are in a highway construction area, all good drivers are going the reduced 'construction zone' speed limit, so the wavy should not be too horrendous.
I do know there was increased police on the road on Sat. night, for the Ho`olaulea,,,no idea why Monday night would warrant (as the football game was way over & not the greatest...)
Glad to see they have some nice new marked vehicles, last I heard, they were not going to replaced the marked vehicles because they got trashed so well in the first few years of the trial...
Now if only the court would enforce the tickets & we could get some ticket revenue (this is one of the big changes for us, Chicago police expected the tickets to be enforced & the money to come in, here they expect the ticket to not be court enforced & do not count on ticket revenue...if only every ticket written was revenue into our county...)
RE: Highway patrol in Puna? - csgray - 09-30-2014
quote:
Originally posted by gypsy69
Not saying the police are doing a bad job or that I dislike them. Just not sure the police are prioritizing the use of community dollars that best serves their community? Say that 8-12 cops are on duty, why should more than half be on our 35 mph highway at 1:00 A.M on a Monday night?.
Would a taxi service or community service serve a good purpose in an area like this. The service could be a few vans with designated drivers (maybe police) who would drive and park near bars on tevery half hour after say 10pm. Donations and contributions from bars, police, madd organizations and what not could help in the effort. Your driving privileges in a area like Puna are worth trying new ways to combat old problems.
Be safe everyone and maybe its just the end of the month quota's being earned like you all say.
Actually I think enforcing DUI laws on the only route in or out of much of Puna is the perfect place for them to be at that hour. They are easily available to answer a call if need be, but both the actual enforcement, and just their presence encourages safer driving, both at the time and in the future. Otherwise they are just randomly doing patrols, and as spread out as our community is they can't possibly prevent most other types of crime. Maybe Oink will weigh in on this one, he has far more experience than any of us with police procedures.
I do know that my mother was a judge when MADD first started and the DUI laws started to get stiffer. She said that the rule changes just got the responsible drinkers off the road, but the hard core multi-time offenders ended up doing real jail time, because they wouldn't quit drinking and driving, or get a designated driver. Our roads are dangerous enough, I am glad that the police are making a concerted effort to get the impaired driver off the roads.
Carol
Every time you feel yourself getting pulled into other people's nonsense, repeat these words: Not my circus, not my monkeys.
Polish Proverb
RE: Highway patrol in Puna? - jrw - 09-30-2014
I know the tape lines are just temp but who ever puts them down should have a little pride in there work and get them on half straight. I worked road work for over 20 years and have never seen the can of job that be done on 130 and 11 with this tape just throw it down no pride in work.
jrw
RE: Highway patrol in Puna? - Guest - 09-30-2014
quote:
Originally posted by gypsy69
The last time I remember a drunk driver hitting and killing an innocent person was in hilo done by a fireman or officer named Mossman or Mathison something like that.
You must live under a rock, or be very sheltered from the news.
Yes, it was Mossman, who killed Tim Sing. He got a 30 day sentence - to be served on weekends and told the judge he was "too busy" to start his sentence on the first weekend.
But you don't recall hearing about Aliyah Braden, the 17 MONTH old girl killed by a drunk driver on 4/23/09?
Or what about the 2 landscape workers, Josephina Visqya and Patrocinia Cadang killed by the drunk and drugged driver on 9/10/12?
Lets not forget about Ted Braxton, the 22 year old musical prodigy killed by the drunk driver on 4/28/11 - who had a BAC of .283 - and when finally stopped by police, the moped Ted was on when killed was still being dragged under his van?
And then we have the 20 year old UH student Brody Winslow killed on 4/11/12 at 7:30 in the morning by the drunk and drugged lady driver who had a BAC of .18. After she hit him, she took off and was finally stopped several blocks away.
Clearly you are very naïve and very ignorant to the toll drunk drivers place on this community.
More importantly, you also fail to realize that the prevalence of drunk drivers and the resulting deaths of totally innocent people is directly the result of the hand slap punishments handed out by the prosecutors and judges.
RE: Highway patrol in Puna? - Midnight Rambler - 09-30-2014
Don't forget the other parts of the Mossman case:
- He didn't report anything until the next day, when of course his BAC would be down.
- When he did, he said his wife was driving, and just told the police that the car had "hit something".
- While awaiting trial in the case, he was promoted in the fire department, before finally being fired almost eight years after the accident.