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RE: Pasta problem - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-08-2015
Here's one of the FDA's lists of "Levels of natural or unavoidable defects in foods that present no health hazards for humans."
I believe they have a separate list for processed foods as well.
WARNING - Don't read if you think all food is grown and processed by workers in white lab coats wearing hair nets:
http://www.fda.gov/Food/GuidanceRegulation/GuidanceDocumentsRegulatoryInformation/SanitationTransportation/ucm056174.htm
RE: Pasta problem - Radiopeg - 01-08-2015
Some new suggestions here, thanks. My freezer just can't hold all the stuff I need to keep. I keep my flour in full time, because I have seen it infest after freezing. The dry ice is a different one. I have resolved to ditch the cardboard. I'll try freezing the pasta, too. I'm sure I have eaten many a bug since I have been here, but the idea of having them by the tablespoon in my spaghetti is just more than I can handle. I once went a year with no chocolate bars or ketchup after seeing a special about how much rodent hair and bug parts you can have in processed food. I do so much less of pre-processed food, so I am sure it helps. I'll eat bugs if I get hungry enough, I suppose, after the doves are gone. Just don't tell me what is in ice cream...
Peace and long life
RE: Pasta problem - Radiopeg - 01-08-2015
Here on the primal edge, I read this from the link--- "Likewise, the mixing of blending of food with a defect at or above the current defect action level with another lot of the same or another food is not permitted. That practice renders the final food unlawful regardless of the defect level of the finished food." Reminded me of my Russian instructor telling us about how after Chernobyl the dairies froze contaminated milk and mixed it to the max safe levels.
Thanks All
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RE: Pasta problem - ericlp - 01-08-2015
look on the bright side!
At least you can wash down that bug juice with clean water that doesn't have to be recycled.
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RE: Pasta problem - knieft - 01-08-2015
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002Q7SZC
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Kirt
RE: Pasta problem - Punatic007 - 01-08-2015
quote:
Originally posted by HereOnThePrimalEdge
Here's one of the FDA's lists of "Levels of natural or unavoidable defects in foods that present no health hazards for humans."
I believe they have a separate list for processed foods as well.
WARNING - Don't read if you think all food is grown and processed by workers in white lab coats wearing hair nets:
http://www.fda.gov/Food/GuidanceRegulation/GuidanceDocumentsRegulatoryInformation/SanitationTransportation/ucm056174.htm
Folks, don't read this. Sometimes ignorance is better, wish I hadn't read it. Yuk!
RE: Pasta problem - terracore - 01-08-2015
The only sure-fire solution we found is, I bought my wife a pasta maker. We keep the flour in a sealed plastic container inside the fridge. Way more ono than the dried crap but yes, also a lot of work and mess.
Less sure-fire but still workable is to buy your pasta from someplace that sells out every week. For example, we bought lasagna noodles at Orchidland (looked fine from the outside of the package) but could tell by looking at the noodles they had been burrowed into (eggs were layed). Pasta had been on their shelves too long. Go to Target at the wrong day of the week and they might not have any lasagna noodles in stock. That is the place to buy to get freshest no buggy pasta from the mainland.
If you don't have the pasta bugs in your house, you will eventually bring them (or eggs) from a store. If you do have them, you'll have to get rid of them, and that's not possible when there is food available to them. They can get into some "airtight" containers and they can chew through plastic bags. Unless they are frozen/refrigerated.
I'm not an entomologist but by "pasta bug" I'm referring to both pantry moths and the little tiny beetles (not cockroaches) that are the most common pests. We had pantry moth larvae and webbing inside an UNSEALED BOTTLE OF TACO SEASONING SALT FROM COSTCO. I didn't think that was even possible for a pest to get into, or live inside an environment with no water, air and being mostly salt. That's how horrible they are.
RE: Pasta problem - ElysianWort - 01-08-2015
Hey Radiopeg. Ironic how you're the kamaaina and I'm the newbie. Your posting tho shows the opposite. You must have moved here recently to have just now discovered that problem here in Puna. The fridge/freezer is the best option but after that maybe a seal-a-meal type machine to completely close the pasta. If you don't have either option available here's another suggestion. Instead of only using a little and storing the rest, cook the entire box of pasta and store the leftovers.
RE: Pasta problem - steve1 - 01-08-2015
Not looking to hijack the thread but I don't want to start a new one for a simple question.
Kalakoa said "Repack in large mason jar, adding a piece of dry ice near the bottom (in the pasta/rice/beans, so it's not directly touching the glass). Set lid loosely and wait for the dry ice to melt, then tighten the lid ("firmly")."
Is there really someone who sells dry ice locally? Even maybe in Hilo?I would love to be able to get some for the next extended power outage in Puna because it lasts for 2 days and doesn't get everything wet. (Just don't confine it in a tightly sealed container while it melts or the will get out by blowing a seal or exploding the container)
RE: Pasta problem - Mindful - 01-08-2015
I'm sure this thread is about food preservation however...
Insect eating has become a trendy mainland thing. Look it up.
Ever see those survivor shows where 10 people are dropped off and have to "fend for themselves?" After 2 days, they go orgasmic when they find a grasshopper.
There is noting wrong with ingesting an insect. We are designed for it. Society has deemed it "yucky" to see an insect anywhere near food so people freak out.
Also, there is no way any insect will survive the cooking process of grains and pastas. People just have to get over the "ick" factor.
Now, if we are talking about long term food storage that is a separate issue as infestation will damage the food stored and infest. Sealed vacuum packed packages are the way to go.
Sorry to be annoying, I know people just want to keep their pasta "clean" but a bug or 2 is in no way harmful or "icky".