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RE: East Hawaii Hospitals Face Layoffs - reni - 05-21-2015
What awful news. If anything deserves picketing by citizens, I would think this one's on the top of the list. Why should we consider "Decent" healthcare a luxury item ???
What stands out to me the most in this mess of bad news is the statement.... regarding planned closures.....
"and one wing of adult inpatient psychiatric care at Hilo Medical Center"...
an entire wing?!!!!!
There already exists a shortage of beds for those needing to be hospitalized for mental illness.
Where will these existing inpatients go? Will they be deemed fit to release and turned out, adding to the already lost members of community that sleep on our sidewalks, under our bridges?
This is shameful.
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RE: East Hawaii Hospitals Face Layoffs - dakine - 05-21-2015
Healthcare? Nah no need, but damn can they build a great telescope.
RE: East Hawaii Hospitals Face Layoffs - pahoated - 05-21-2015
Hospitals are having problems all over. The reason is some people use emergency since they don't have health care or the money to pay for it, and all things like gunshots, stabbings, cliff jumping, domestic beating, are admitted to emergency without payment ability required. Most can't pay. The hospital has to pass on the costs to patients with health insurance, so that is why there is $40 aspirin and $100 bandages. This leads to huge hospital costs that even the insured can't pay their bills after the insurance coverage. Bankruptcy due to medical care is the number one reason for bankruptcy now.
This is terrible for that many people to be facing layoffs. Hilo Medical Center was getting good reviews for their improvements the past few years. It used to be known in the local community as the place where you went to die. Layoffs like this are just another reason more people won't be able to stay in Hawaii. Civil Beat has been running a series of articles from people that wanted to live in Hawaii but ultimately had to go back to the mainland. If the anti-government and anti-technology social media has its way, that is going to become much more common.
"Aloha also means goodbye. Aloha!"
RE: East Hawaii Hospitals Face Layoffs - TomK - 05-21-2015
Dakine wrote:
"Healthcare? Nah no need, but damn can they build a great telescope."
Who are "they"?
RE: East Hawaii Hospitals Face Layoffs - dmbwest - 05-21-2015
Me thinks maybe patellar tendon reflex Tom ....
RE: East Hawaii Hospitals Face Layoffs - PaulW - 05-21-2015
You don't want a telescope, don't want businesses to invest, then don't complain about the consequences.
Maybe there's some "traditional" healthcare that can be applied instead, in keeping with the anti-science flavor.
RE: East Hawaii Hospitals Face Layoffs - VancouverIslander - 05-22-2015
The US should really consider a completely government run health care system. The rest of the developed world does it. It doesn't completely protect hospitals from layoffs, but it does control costs, cut out the middle man (insurance companies) and focus more on patient health. There is a small bureaucracy down side, but in Canada at least, that's been managed decently well.
And don't feel too bad for the doctors, they are all making 6 figures if they work full time.
Just call me Mike
RE: East Hawaii Hospitals Face Layoffs - kalakoa - 05-22-2015
The US should really consider a completely government run health care system.
The "reform" which brought us "guaranteed insurance" doesn't actually "provide healthcare"?
Politicians lied?
RE: East Hawaii Hospitals Face Layoffs - SuperGu - 05-22-2015
For the record... ObamaCare is government run, and the Veterans Administration is a completely government run health care system. Both are complete failures. Our government can't even pass a transparent bill, they have to do it in secret, like ObamaTrade. The person who said anti-government types are the undoing of our health care system is 180 degrees off.
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RE: East Hawaii Hospitals Face Layoffs - kalakoa - 05-22-2015
ObamaCare is government run
Again for the zillionth time: ObamaCare is "insurance", and "insurance" is not "healthcare".