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RE: Why does HAAS need its own private traffic light? - Anxious Messiah - 06-16-2015
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http://www.civilbeat.com/2015/06/what-does-it-take-to-get-a-traffic-light-in-pahoa/
I do not know where Russel is getting his 'facts' from but to say that there are several accidents every week at 130 and post office road is pure BS. Steiner needs to trade in that scooter if she is so terrified.
This is the kind of narrow minded thinking, special interest catering that keeps Pahoa as the laughing stock in HNL. Enjoy your term RR, I predict that it will be your last.
From the article...
"But Hirakami and Steiner say the intersection is a regular site of fender benders and traffic backups."
Ruderman never made any such quote. At least be factual in your dislike for Ruderman.
I know comprehension is lacking these days but c'mon man!
"The road is extremely dangerous and becomes nonfunctional several times a week because of accidents or construction-related traffic jams, Ruderman said."
Try again Messiah, you can do it!
Again, Ruderman never made the quote the way that you presented it.
Read your own last post, "...accidents AND...traffic jams..."
I get your need to spin it as a Ruderman fault, but it isn't, and I stand by laying it directly at the feet of the DOT.
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RE: Why does HAAS need its own private traffic light? - kalakoa - 06-16-2015
I stand by laying it directly at the feet of the DOT
Rest assured County does plenty to help; in this case, Post Office Road is substandard (narrower, in fact, than most "private" subdivision roads), and should never have been made a County-maintained "public" road.
Because those are the rules, and "rules are for everyone".
RE: Why does HAAS need its own private traffic light? - lavalava - 06-16-2015
I attributed the Senator (whom I voted for) with stating that there are several accidents a week and his exact quote claims there are several incidents per week where the road is non functioning which he attributes to accidents AND construction related traffic.
By clarifying his statement you reveal it be even more idiotic as there is zero construction related traffic jams near post office road as the road construction was happening on the Keaau end of highway 130.
Again, for the Senator to state that there are several non-functioning incidents of ANY type each week at the post office/130 intersection is a lie and he knows it.
RE: Why does HAAS need its own private traffic light? - Anxious Messiah - 06-16-2015
Yeah, sure. OK. (snicker)
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RE: Why does HAAS need its own private traffic light? - lavalava - 06-16-2015
"The road is extremely dangerous and becomes nonfunctional several times a week because of accidents or construction-related traffic jams, Ruderman said."
Do you agree with that statement AM?
RE: Why does HAAS need its own private traffic light? - Anxious Messiah - 06-16-2015
In my experience, yes. And by definition. Nuff said.
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RE: Why does HAAS need its own private traffic light? - kalakoa - 06-16-2015
there is zero construction related traffic jams near post office road
But ... Post Office Road is in the same county as the construction work, doesn't that count?
RE: Why does HAAS need its own private traffic light? - Rob Tucker - 06-16-2015
Just a a reflection, a couple or three years ago HAAS was before the Planning Commission for a Special Use Permit for the school. At that hearing Bobbie Jean Leithead-Todd (the then planning director) entered a demand for HDOT that HAAS first install a traffic light, widen the intersection and add turn lanes at their own expense.... and that the work was to be completed in 120 days (HDOT can't even respond to a letter in 120 days much less build anything). It was really outrageous and the commission turned HDOT down.
Here comes the most interesting point:
A few weeks later in a national news report it was published that the Federal Department of Transportation was threatening to withdraw funds from several states who had received millions from a program to improve intersections at or near schools. Hawaii was listed as the worst offender with $6,000,000 unspent and sitting around unused.
It seemed apparent to me that the fix was in with DOE and HDOT to keep making life miserable for charter schools.
HAAS is a good outfit and a credit to the area. I hope Russell succeeds in getting a light there.
RE: Why does HAAS need its own private traffic light? - Anxious Messiah - 06-16-2015
Hawaii has left millions on the table over the years due its lack of motivation to take advantage of funding from the Feds. Roads, education, infrastructure. There is strong undercurrent that flows to block, stall, or otherwise toss a wrench into the works from the top office holders and various department heads.
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RE: Why does HAAS need its own private traffic light? - kalakoa - 06-16-2015
lack of motivation to take advantage of funding from the Feds
Only for "neighbor island" projects -- State certainly figured out how to get Federal money for "interstate" highways and rail ... on Oahu.