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RE: Fence installation - Rob Tucker - 01-10-2016
Field fencing is very effective and much less expensive than chain link. I fenced fifteen acres for $12.5k.
RE: Fence installation - terracore - 01-10-2016
I would recommend field fencing as well unless you're going to be keeping horned animals like goats.
Mirandas sells the triple dipped galvanized T-posts for a reasonable price, and you can frequently get them $1 off on sale. 100% of the fencing products at home depot are garbage in this environment, the exception being some of their livestock gates rise to the level of being acceptable.
RE: Fence installation - Jeffhale - 01-10-2016
Sked 40 posts, good for Hawaii, and thick galvanized as well. back in the day, Sutherland lumber had the cheapest, lowest quality. Lowe's and home depot 2nd to same cheap garbage, varying from 11.5-12 gage (Marked 11.5) while another local had the thickest pipe, accessories and wire @ same price they did varying from 10-11, (Gage thickness on final produce varies depending on thickness of coating). . So, yeah, know who ya know as you're gonna have rust any way ya looks at it, eventually. Finding the Thickest coating of zinc is what ya want to look for in residential fencing, preferably 10-11 gage after coating zinc. and wether contracted out or self installation,, always check to insure you're getting what ya want! . plastic or rubber may seem like a deal, but I've seen more rotted rubber fences and expect it's because they can't breathe inside the coating.
And so yawl made me take a closer looky see in today's market, and yet, it's still $10,000 (Hawaii mark-up) for a square acre installation @ $17,000 than estimated stateside. .
" Works in Georgia estimates average costs with professional installation at $7.99 per foot for a 4' high residential galvanized chain-link fence and $8.99 a foot for 6' high, with a gate adding $130-$320."
Because I've experience the greater of the contractors, 60-75% will opt with higher quality Georgia suppliers for their materials. Pretty sure that's where I bought supplies way back then too, when a large job came in. The large suppliers are usually superior in quality of materials to local lumber suppliers and higher quantities gets lower than local prices would too. I always saved in 1 acre or greater full packages buying that way, shipped, central destinations stateside.
So, OK, you're gonna pay for shipping through your local suppliers, 'built in costs' locally, , add in dependence of getting holes inside of blue stone, without an experienced condition myself in today's market, I spect, it would be reasonable for yawl to be able to get that price, $8.99 plus 30% installed. $11.687 ft. plus gates with less than 40% blue stone, installed.
Alternatively, if your patent, eyes on anywhere used fence can be had,, when availed, it's easy pickings to get good stuff from 1/2 market to way lower. Just know what ya know and what ya want. Maybe not shiny silver, for that pop but, it'll be gray by a year anyway. I did it for less than a buck, [grin]
Plus older good chain link fencing, 30 or so more years, if not rusted, is top quality, residential or industrial! .
far as I'm concerned the only thing hard for yawl, in Puna, is that danged blue stone.. both cases, do it your self, and extra special to watch out for; contractor who'll quote ya high price using that play, of estimate it as if 100% is blue. that is most likely why ya might get a 17K bid. and if that's not the case, make the guy walk the whole perimeter, and cite the % of blue, know what ya got. My experience in puna is, majority of contractors quote ya prices as if it's the only dang job they'll get all year. lol. Not all,, but more than I wanted to interview.
RE: Fence installation - MarkP - 01-10-2016
I have 928 feet of perimeter. The quote might have been around $17 per foot, which still works out close to $16,000. That did not include clearing the property line as I recall. I figured that that price was very high but even at half that I would do it myself. In fact I was doing OK, drilling and installing a T-bar post every 10 minutes with the help of my brother and nephew until my rotary hammer burned out. Of course THAT also did not include clearing the property line, but nevertheless I was on track to fence the whole acre for about $2,500 in materials plus my labor.
A nice flat section of pahoehoe is not that much harder than driving the T-posts into dirt. There is the additional step of drilling the rock, which takes about 5 min per post, then you drive the post into that. The end result is an extremely well-set post. What I am not looking forward to is where there is a rubbly slope at the edge of the property where the dozer filled up to the property line. There I anticipate having to search around to find single large rocks to set the posts into. Around the entire perimeter I plan to stack rocks around the base of the fence to fill in low spots and generally deter piggies.
RE: Fence installation - terracore - 01-10-2016
"There I anticipate having to search around to find single large rocks to set the posts into. Around the entire perimeter I plan to stack rocks around the base of the fence to fill in low spots and generally deter piggies."
What I did was search for a location that had a large rock I could remove creating a hole in it's absence where the surrounding area was fairly solid and then set the T-post in that hole using concrete.
What size drill bit were you using? I need to get a new one and I forget what size I had last time but remember thinking I wanted a slightly larger one.
RE: Fence installation - DTisme - 01-10-2016
If you're going to put in field fencing, horse fencing has smaller holes than hog fencing and is a bit more expensive. We went this way bc our small dogs can get thru hog fencing.
RE: Fence installation - MarkP - 01-10-2016
I have been using a 1 1/2" diameter drill bit. The T-posts fit tightly.
RE: Fence installation - Bullwinkle - 01-10-2016
I like this fencing from Mirandas - has a thicker galvanized coating - pricey but worth it imho
http://www.xfence.com/
RE: Fence installation - VancouverIslander - 01-11-2016
quote:
Originally posted by MarkP
I have been using a 1 1/2" diameter drill bit. The T-posts fit tightly.
What kind of driver are you using for it and how deep do you go?
Just call me Mike
RE: Fence installation - MarkP - 01-11-2016
I had been using a Hitachi DH 40FA rotary hammer until I overheated it and it stopped working. It was working well though. The drill bit I have would allow me to go up to 18" deep but I go down not quite a foot or so. The T-bar has a flat plate on it about 10" up that prevents driving it in any further. If you're driving it into solid rock 6" would be enough.