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RE: Package Homes - Alpogi8 - 04-10-2018

quote:
Originally posted by Mangosteen

Check out Castle Block package homes.

http://castleblock.com/Affordable_Housing/faq.html

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Interested to check this house design. Anyone willing to show me his/her home and possibly give me some advise? I’m in HPP for the next 6 days. Thanks


RE: Package Homes - Alpogi8 - 04-10-2018

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RE: Package Homes - Hunt Stoddard - 04-11-2018

quote:
Originally posted by Tink

Slab is easier to get through plan check if they decide that day to enforce seismic loads, but a post of 12 inch diameter concrete with beam saddles on top for wood the rest of the way up work very well to have the wood above "splash" level, and have a bit more seismic/weight strength than wood. To at least tempt them to plan check it without "Engineering".
2 piece rebar 2 inches inside of the cardboard tube from Home Depot with a Simpson saddle and go.

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I'll be going post and pier. My thoughts on this are: first, current building dept guidelines don't seem to allow many single piers with 4x4 posts, though I'm far from clear on this. Seems like they're moving toward having several shear walls with beams between them. The walls will be covered with t1-11. What posts <i>are</i> exposed should be CU treated and then primed/painted. I can't imagine they would get enough weather to rot easily, especially if you have a 4' eave overhang.

Concrete is expensive, especially here in HI. Concrete piers are great, but will cost you. Are they worth the extra expense and effort? I'm not sure. (In fact, I'm not sure about all the above Smile)


RE: Package Homes - birdmove - 04-14-2018

I think post and pier, in the long run, is best. Up off the ground is good, and easier access to water lines and such.

Jon in Keaau/HPP


RE: Package Homes - Hotzcatz - 04-27-2018

Part of it depends where on the island you're building. They're now checking wind loads, seismic zones and requiring engineering on plans up along the Hamakua coast areas.

They seem to want all the piers connected with concrete beams (stringers?) now. At least, up along the Hamakua Coast, it may be different in Puna due to the lack of soil there. In any case, the piers are tied together with 12" x 12" concrete 'beams' and I forget the size and quantity of rebar at the moment, but the rebar is in there. Concrete has almost zero tensile strength so there'd have to be rebar.

There is now a lot of requirements for braced walls which includes the post and pier part of the house, too. For bracing requirements, the post and pier level of a house is considered as one floor level of the house so it would have the same bracing requirements as the first floor. And the braced walls are required each way every so many feet, twenty four? Twenty six? Twenty eight? and for a certain percentage of the length. It may be 55% of the first floor walls. Which pretty much knocks the 'traditional' post and pier methods out of the water.

So, for a post and beam house, the corners are minimum 4' x 4' braced walls, also 55% of the perimeter is now a braced wall instead of just posts. Under the braced wall there is about double the amount of concrete that there used to be and a lot more Simpson fittings than there used to be.

As for getting the trusses up, a lot of it depends on the individual construction. I've had them delivered to the top of the walls, but that was a slab on grade house. If it's one story on piers, usually one end of the trusses will reach the top of the walls so they are never fully lifted, more tilted and slid than lifted. There is the crane truck option as well for higher houses.


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RE: Package Homes - HI_Someday - 04-29-2018

Our preferred plan when/if we are able move to the Big Island was to buy a few acres and build, likely on tbe Hamakua coast. After following the forums for a few years, and reading Hotcatz' post above, it now seems highly unlikely we'll be able to build (both financial and timeframe reasons).


RE: Package Homes - randomq - 04-29-2018

Hawaii County is doing its best to increase the homeless population, but don't give up!


RE: Package Homes - David M - 05-01-2018

Election season coming up and the required political affirmation for building affordable housing. Of course that never is directly tied to County/State codes and other costly requirements.

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RE: Package Homes - kalakoa - 05-01-2018

political affirmation for building affordable housing

The usual code-license-fee-inspection regime doesn't apply to "affordable housing" because those projects are killed early by people who don't want it "near their house".




RE: Package Homes - Luke Duke - 05-05-2018

I’m thinking about giving an HPP lot I own to my nephew so he can build a small 2/2 packaged home for his family of three (about 1000 sf). Is the figure of $130/sf for a contractor-built house still reasonable? With clearing, leveling, septic tank, electric hook up, and the other things that need to be done, would a budget of $200k be adequate? Would the bank require 20% of the total cost to be cash he has on hand for a construction loan?