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RE: Hawaii residents want pesticide alert!! - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 04-26-2018
it's a fairly simple exercise to discover which ones were used, and when, and how applied.
It should be. As you say, many are regulated and require training by the applicators, as well as a detailed accounting of purchases, dates and areas sprayed, etc.
Unfortunately as one of the documentaries I posted awhile back showed, it's not always easy to get that info from the farms when they're asked for it.
Portion of Hawaii’s drinking water that comes from underground wells : 9/10
Gallons of raw sewage that leak into the ground from Hawaii cesspools each day : 53,000,000 - Harper's Index
RE: Hawaii residents want pesticide alert!! - Kapoho Joe - 04-26-2018
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Originally posted by My 2 cents
It should not be up to the farmer next door to decide what my child breathes.
It's not - all that is regulated by the gubmint. Besides, did the farm just pop up or was it there when you moved in?
RE: Hawaii residents want pesticide alert!! - kalakoa - 04-26-2018
it's not always easy to get that info from the farms
Use "Federal pre-emption" to leverage EPA against the State.
Well, maybe before Pruitt.
RE: Hawaii residents want pesticide alert!! - leilanidude - 04-26-2018
he reality is none of them are safe, especially the pesticides but I say herbicides too including Roundup.
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So I cannot get rid of those pesky LFA's without telling my neighbors?
RE: Hawaii residents want pesticide alert!! - rainyjim - 04-26-2018
Herbicides are pesticides.
Pesticides are not necessarily herbicides.
All pesticides are toxic. That’s the point. They are poison - to kill unwanted pests.
Does this mean it affects you or your children? Probably not. Especially not if the pesticides are used in the manner they are meant to be i.e. if the instructions on the label are followed.
Most misuse comes from homeowners not farmers.
The point of this legislation is to provide another route of attack against GMOs. Because ideological crusaders failed at banning GMOs in Hawaii they have now introduced new legislation that includes giving the ability for anyone to sue any farmer at any time if the complainant contends the farm is using pesticides inappropriately or growing GMO crops. It would create a nightmare for all farmers, who would have to prepare to defend themselves against an infinite number of frivolous court actions. Legal fees, alone, could bankrupt many. In this way the ideological crusaders believe they can attack the seed industry that grows some GMO crops without passing legislation directly related to GMOs.
RE: Hawaii residents want pesticide alert!! - kalakoa - 04-26-2018
the ability for anyone to sue any farmer at any time
Selectively. Farmland on Oahu is clearly best used for "transit-oriented development", while farmland on the Big Island is the mission-critical "breadbasket of the state".
RE: Hawaii residents want pesticide alert!! - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 04-26-2018
infinite number of frivolous court actions... ideological crusaders believe
Once while I sprayed roundup in my yard, 75 feet from the road, I heard a person walking their dogs (upwind from me) yelling, waving her arms, screaming at me to stop. I stopped and told her it was just roundup, the nozzle is 3" above the ground, there's barely a breeze, and when there is it would for the sake of argument blow any spray away from her.
She replied "I SMELL IT!"
I don't know about you, but I can't smell concentrated Roundup, much less when it's diluted as specified on the label. Can you imagine when someone like that sees a farmer with a tractor and a spraying rig?
Portion of Hawaii’s drinking water that comes from underground wells : 9/10
Gallons of raw sewage that leak into the ground from Hawaii cesspools each day : 53,000,000 - Harper's Index
RE: Hawaii residents want pesticide alert!! - glinda - 04-26-2018
quote:Why would we treat farmers any different than any other industry? Aren't the courts our means to seek resolution of our differences? As such shouldn't we have the right to sue a farmer over actions of their's that infringe on the wellbeing of others?
Originally posted by rainyjim
legislation that includes giving the ability for anyone to sue any farmer at any time if the complainant contends the farm is using pesticides inappropriately or growing GMO crops...
To suggest that farmers should be protected from scrutiny, and having to be accountable for their actions, especially when it involves potentially hazardous materials, doesn't make any sense to me. In fact, to say that they can not be sued suggests there is something to sue them over.
RE: Hawaii residents want pesticide alert!! - knieft - 04-26-2018
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Originally posted by glinda
As such shouldn't we have the right to sue a farmer over actions of their's that infringe on the wellbeing of others?
I wish we could sue these "activists" who have hurt the wellbeing of others over the years with their crazy fears and hipper-holier-than-thou attitude that purports to save us all from the geothermal/chemical/genetic/etc evils that exist far more so in their minds than in reality.
Cheers,
Kirt
RE: Hawaii residents want pesticide alert!! - Rob Tucker - 04-26-2018
Last I heard Hawaii was rated the healthiest state in the country.