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RE: Can I hunt boar on the BI? - terracore - 09-23-2020
Since the OP is apparently interested in meat self-sufficiency, if one takes measures to control the mongoose population (and sometimes even if they don't) the jungle seems to spit out an inexhaustible supply of chickens to eat, as well as pork.
RE: Can I hunt boar on the BI? - MikeyMike11 - 09-23-2020
(09-23-2020, 05:24 AM)terracore Wrote: Since the OP is apparently interested in meat self-sufficiency, if one takes measures to control the mongoose population (and sometimes even if they don't) the jungle seems to spit out an inexhaustible supply of chickens to eat, as well as pork.
CHICKENS YOU SAY? Why have I not heard this before? We have grouse here, which, while they taste delicious, are not allowed to be on the menu without permits. Some wild jungle fowl is some of the most tasty meat in the world. I bet their bellies are filled with fat slugs, and their eggs are a rich golden orange...
The meat we eat from the grocery is poison. It's not even allowed to be labeled by country of origin anymore. The antibiotics they use to ensure that the animals don't die from disease from over crowding in their pens, has a direct and devastating impact on our beneficial gut microbiota. I say this with a degree in Micro, not as some cooky SOB on the internet. I always feel sick when I eat a burger from a fast food chain, but a big ass slab of bison meat almost makes me feel as if I can run through a wall.
I like the suggestion of composting the remains, it never occurred to me. I have to pee on my compost pile, to even get some heat going deep in it. The sun just doesn't warm it up enough. The microbes in the intestines will probably supercharge that heap.
Bacon, eggs, and coffee, with some fruit smoothies for my girls... I think we will be having breakfast 3x a day in Hawaii... We also grow a lot of food, but the summers here have less than 90 days of growing, so it is a struggle. I also planned on a 20x20 greenhouse for a kitchen herb garden and also to fight the rat lungworm. My lot backs into jungle. Are there fruit trees to forage from while out walking? Or should I focus on planting those on my lot?
RE: Can I hunt boar on the BI? - Punaperson - 09-23-2020
While your goals of food self-sufficiency are admirable, be aware that lots in Hawaiian Shores are small, neighbors are close, and the restrictions are plenty.
RE: Can I hunt boar on the BI? - kalakoa - 09-23-2020
Exactly: some of the subdivisions are high-density (with restrictions and uptight neighbors), and some are mostly jungle, and some of those are "wild west" (my neighbor takes a rifle on walks, in case there's a pig).
Might need a bigger greenhouse, there's more pests than just RLW, and you can always barter the excess.
RE: Can I hunt boar on the BI? - Seeb-2 - 09-23-2020
You can even hunt wild cows some places. But Hawaiian shores my not be your best choice
RE: Can I hunt boar on the BI? - Carey - 09-23-2020
MM< There are choke (lots) of different game animals that have been brought to the islands & are now FERAL & there are some regulations on most, however most FERAL game animals here are in the "pest" realm (Feral game birds: dove, pheasants, erckle, turkey, partridge & ʻjungle fowlʻ (chickens) are most prevalent; Feral game mammals: boar, sheep, goat, cattle AND rats & mongoose if you so chose!
Most of the truly WILD animals here (ie: endemic & native species - since only 2 mammals endemic/native, they are almost all birds)) are not only non-game animals, but can run you into hefty fines even for accidental take.
& there is fishing & even some nuisance species that are encouraged to take (yellowtail & roi are the 2 most prevalent "visitor fishʻ)
DLNR is the true authority on hunting here, so here is the link you may want to puruse!
https://dlnr.hawaii.gov/recreation/hunting/
As to picking fruit, it is best to get to know your neighbors FIRST - there are ʻrippersʻ who troll around neighborhoods looking for trees to exploit & some have done things like chopping/breaking trees down to harvest! they have kinda ruined many neighbors attitude to the casual fruit picker, HOWEVER many folks have way too much produce & are more than happy to share, but just wanna know WHO they are sharing with (also stupid fruit pickers have gotten injured on other folks land & actually SUED the landowners for "Attractive nuisance" so that also has spoiled a lot of folks on allowing others on their land...)
RLW can get into greenhouses... so be aware... actually just about anything you may find that is supposed to stop them, their vectors have been able to get around (even electrical currents...)
RE: Can I hunt boar on the BI? - MarkP - 09-24-2020
If you have too much Uluhe fern in the mix the compost doesn't heat up. I have had considerable trouble getting compost to heat up here vs the mainland.
I once asked someone in forestry about this and he said Uluhe ferns take a super long time to break down in the wild. It is thought to be some kind of survival strategy in that they make their own mulch or something. Anyway, ground-up Uluhe ferns don't compost well. I seem to do ok with grass clippings. In my case grass clippings is mostly woody weeds and small bushes. Making the pile big helps too. Roadkill is said to be an excellent addition to compost. I have a composting toilet system (buckets) that is the main supply of nitrogen for my piles. Sometimes if I have brush to burn I try to collect charcoal and put it in the pile.
RE: Can I hunt boar on the BI? - terracore - 09-24-2020
Perdue (one of the largest chicken producers) hasn't used antibiotics in chicken production in years, and they also do not sell imported chicken in the USA.
RE: Can I hunt boar on the BI? - TomK - 09-24-2020
Thanks for that link, Carey. A collegue of mine is a hunter on the island and I asked him for advice that I could pass on in this thread. The first link he gave was the one you gave:
https://dlnr.hawaii.gov/recreation/hunting/
He also mentioned that Pohakuloa Training Area is available to hunters as well. Obviously it's not jungle but there are certainly pigs on the mountain (I nearly hit one years ago while driving up to Mauna Kea) but apparently they are small compared to pigs at sea level. Other animals including sheep (very popular apparently), goats and also wild turkeys, although I have not heard of people hunting turkeys before.
https://pta.isportsman.net/default.aspx
The email I got back from him was useful; you need a hunting license of course and if you choose PTA then there are a bunch of other requirements that I hope are covered in the link. Bear in mind I am not a hunter, but I welcome anyone to the island who can help control the pig problem!
RE: Can I hunt boar on the BI? - dobanion - 09-24-2020
FWIW, hunting in Pohakuloa seems to be archery only, by permit, within certain timeframes.