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RE: Hawaiian history - kalianna - 08-26-2021
"19th century Hawaiian history as told by James Haley who was told only Hawaiians can write about Hawaiian history.
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Except that Hawaiians did not have a written language..."
My point was in reference to this statement. In fact, Hawaiians did have a written language in the 19th cemtury. Not begrudging the missionaries for their work in making it happen, but I'm not sure how what you added changes anything.
RE: Hawaiian history - leilanidude - 08-26-2021
The irony is what you missed.
That being that "only Hawaiians can write about Hawaiian history", when there was no written language to write with. Of course it has become a written language, now.
RE: Hawaiian history - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-26-2021
"only Hawaiians can write about Hawaiian history", when there was no written language to write with.
Hawaiians did have an oral tradition which included a long and vast historical record that stretches back much further than the written language. So yes, Hawaiians did not write about history until the 1820's, but some of the written stories after that date were much older.
History is never objective, it's written by the victors and the survivors, which is why most cultures, religions, groups wish to write their own version.
RE: Hawaiian history - TomK - 08-29-2021
(08-26-2021, 01:34 PM)leilanidude Wrote: The irony is what you missed.
That being that "only Hawaiians can write about Hawaiian history", when there was no written language to write with. Of course it has become a written language, now.
Perhaps they used a crayon?
RE: Hawaiian history - kalakoa - 08-29-2021
All written Hawaiian history is contaminated by the knowledge of writing. This is an intentional byproduct of colonization; to subjugate a people, it is first necessary to destroy their history, such as by providing a "free" (Western) education to the children.
RE: Hawaiian history - leilanidude - 09-01-2021
(08-29-2021, 02:45 PM)TomK Wrote:(08-26-2021, 01:34 PM)leilanidude Wrote: The irony is what you missed.
That being that "only Hawaiians can write about Hawaiian history", when there was no written language to write with. Of course it has become a written language, now.
Perhaps they used a crayon?
The idgit in the dome...
RE: Hawaiian history - TomK - 09-06-2021
That would be the redneck version of an eejit, right?