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RE: Permit (unpermitted triggers for Bldg Dept) - kalakoa - 01-18-2022
Apologies if you don't appreciate my input.
More to the point, not making the connection between "buying a house" and "the broader social contract".
I may have missed that day in school.
RE: Permit (unpermitted triggers for Bldg Dept) - Puna Grace - 01-18-2022
"the broader social contract"
Given that you have misquoted me, perhaps the disconnect begins there.
RE: Permit (unpermitted triggers for Bldg Dept) - kalianna - 01-18-2022
The original post was asking for input on how to get through the planning dept. with minimal hassle. You hijacked it into being about a "social contract". Thatʻs the disconnect.
RE: Permit (unpermitted triggers for Bldg Dept) - kalakoa - 01-18-2022
Admittedly so; let's refer back to the original:
I wonder if there isn't a broader social cost as well...
What exactly is the broader social cost of an unpermitted home? Seriously; I'm intrigued.
RE: Permit (unpermitted triggers for Bldg Dept) - Puna Grace - 01-18-2022
I’m looking at what the cost (emotional, psychic and financial) - OP
Maybe reading comprehension is the disconnect.
RE: Permit (unpermitted triggers for Bldg Dept) - kalakoa - 01-18-2022
Cost is a choice.
RE: Permit (unpermitted triggers for Bldg Dept) - Ccat - 01-23-2022
(01-17-2022, 08:27 PM)randomq Wrote: Most of the social costs of unpermitted homes are imposed by others that benefit from permits (mortgage companies, contractors, building supply manufacturers and sellers, their lobbyists, county government, neighbors treating their homes as an investment that must grow).YES! (A loud shout out!)
Most of the social costs of permitted homes are direct costs, in the form of unaffordability that forces people into wage slavery, enriching others via rental, or homelessness.
It should be a human right to build your own shelter as you see fit, as long as it does not cause harm to others.
A human right, yes. As long as it does not cause harm...yes. On land you own outright and not too close to somebody else, etc. Even if it’s an open air shack, fine with me as long as it is hidden behind bushes or something and you pay reasonable taxes.
ordinary people need a place to live!
zoning, permitting, etc., otherwise, is *evil*!
I lived in California for too long. There, you might have to get a permit to change your water heater! Ridiculous! Enough is enough!
long live Puna (as built) and the (simple) happy Puna way of life!
I love Puna!
Ccat
RE: Permit (unpermitted triggers for Bldg Dept) - kalakoa - 01-23-2022
get a permit to change your water heater!
Here, you have to get permits, and then pay someone to change your water heater, because you're not licensed for plumbing/electrical/gas.
Then we wonder why there isn't any "affordable housing".
RE: Permit (unpermitted triggers for Bldg Dept) - Obie - 01-23-2022
"Looking at a home which has at least two unpermitted baths and a couple of rooms."
Getting that percentage of the home permitted would trigger an upgrade to the latest code. You might as well tear the house down and start over.
I don't know about any social cost because the county has eyes in the sky and the will notice any addition and raise the property tax accordingly.