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RE: Hawaiian Paradise Park might get a park - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-21-2024
If we work from the premise that the county will waste all the money they administer, probably most other projects they oversee benefit the general population less than a park.
20 acre park.
20 three bedroom houses built on one acre parcels in HPP would total about, $10-12 million? A park with one building costs $100 million?
RE: Hawaiian Paradise Park might get a park - Punatang - 09-21-2024
20 three bedroom houses built on one acre parcels in HPP would total about, $10-12 million?
You rang?
It just so happens that at this very moment there are exactly 20 brand new houses for sale in HPP. You made a respectable guesstimate. Total asking price: $13,367,950
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RE: Hawaiian Paradise Park might get a park - Obie - 09-21-2024
"You must not be aware of the homeless and the "needle issue"
That was during the eruption and it was cleaned up. Also the needles are everywhere not just the park.
"Why not a park for Orchidland, or Hawaiian Acres? "
Higher population and neither of them donated 20 acres.
"A park with one building costs $100 million?"
Looks like a few buildings,a pool and a bunch of different sports fields.
RE: Hawaiian Paradise Park might get a park - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-21-2024
Looks like a few buildings,a pool and a bunch of different sports fields.
Yes, it’s more than one building. What’s a pool cost for a homeowner, $50-100,000? Sure, the park pool is a BIG pool, but still.
Don’t forget, the price of land is not included in the $100 million park costs. But is for the twenty $13+ million dollar homes.
I’m open to other comparisons.
RE: Hawaiian Paradise Park might get a park - Obie - 09-22-2024
Maybe they are building all the sports fields with clean topsoil in bags from Home Depot.
RE: Hawaiian Paradise Park might get a park - kalianna - 09-22-2024
And then theyʻll plant coconuts!
RE: Hawaiian Paradise Park might get a park - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 09-22-2024
And then theyʻll plant coconuts!
Or they’ll force the project through like the HPP mailboxes, spend most of the money and discover it’s a Native Hawaiian burial site. Then in the chatty HPPOA letter to homeowners they’ll inform us for the last four months the project delay is due to county officials.
HPPOA knew in May or June. How do I know? I was told by a site worker in June weeks after the discovery.
https://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/2024/09/19/hawaii-news/discovery-of-burial-site-halts-work-on-hpp-mailbox-project/amp/
RE: Hawaiian Paradise Park might get a park - TomK - 09-22-2024
(09-21-2024, 05:42 PM)Punatang Wrote: Can someone explain why creating parks is such a big thing here?
Yes, gladly. We learned it from The British. https://www.playingpasts.co.uk/articles/the-great-outdoors/a-brief-history-of-british-public-parks-before-1870/
That's an interesting read. On behalf of my fellow citizens from the 19th century, I apologize if creating parks has become a political ideal here. I enjoyed reading the penultimate paragraph:
"This introduction to public parks has focused on the importance of parks in the political, social and cultural life of Britain and its industrial cities. They were, and are, places where different powers are contested and rooted into the ground. As with all spaces, they are not neutral, they are shaped by and shape us. I have tried to show that the notion of the “People’s Park” needs to be questioned. It is a simple term which suggests belonging, ownership and opportunity and yet, at the same time, it was one which was fundamentally connected to social control over the masses and the need for new, healthy, and morally correct bodies."
When I lived in the UK, I never thought of parks this way. They were a nice place to relax, have lunch, and feed the ducks. It never occurred to me that I was part of some social control conspiracy.
https://youtu.be/FbMm3YXPbJY?si=UDY9yHgtXe6edsVs&t=200
https://youtu.be/nXZd2Fj1r1Y?si=0niPBHoA7mky2M6x
https://youtu.be/JJIVjvsinJ8?si=VaRE4qCm5q2gdqsC
https://youtu.be/fYItT1ohuKU?si=zcu9qotMJjyIlRIl&t=987
https://youtu.be/fYItT1ohuKU?si=t3oXxxdeuJY3Zs9N&t=2395
RE: Hawaiian Paradise Park might get a park - kalakoa - 09-22-2024
Punchline: a new park will require additional maintenance staff and equipment, funded by taxes. Vote wisely.
RE: Hawaiian Paradise Park might get a park - leilanidude - 09-22-2024
Or they’ll force the project through like the HPP mailboxes, spend most of the money and discover it’s a Native Hawaiian burial site.
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Isn't that a 20 acre site and the mailboxes were to use .9 of one acre of it? Surely the burial site isn't across all 20 acres? At times it seems like the entire island chain is a giant burial ground based upon all these new findings.