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RE: Pahoa Woodland Center Protest - csgray - 06-18-2009
I based my post on Scott's own language. The fact that he said "Two things caught my eye" and "all the protesters I saw" not "protesters I talked to and asked where they were from" certainly implied that he drove by and drew conclusions. If he had said "I stopped by the protest" or "when I talked to the protesters I learned they were all from New Jersey" then I would not have posted a response. Instead Scott used language about his observation of the protesters, not his interaction with them, and made assumptions about them based on their skin color: they were young and white, so they must be new arrivals, and thus are part of the problem and have no right to voice their opinion.
Everyone has the right to their opinions (even pale skinned new or long term residents) and if they want to hang out and wave signs long after the opportunity to do anything constructive about the issue has passed, that is their right under both the US and Hawaiian constitutions. And Scott has the same right to voice his opinion about their tactics, their ideas, or their effectiveness. But don't expect to make sweeping generalizations based on casual observation of those you disagree with and not expect to get called on it.
Carol
RE: Pahoa Woodland Center Protest - oink - 06-18-2009
Whats that little saying some guy on here posts on occasion? Assume the best and then ask, or something like that?
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
RE: Pahoa Woodland Center Protest - james weatherford - 06-18-2009
Thanks, again, Carol.
James Weatherford, Ph.D.
15-1888 Hialoa
Hawaiian Paradise Park
RE: Pahoa Woodland Center Protest - Laughing_girl - 06-19-2009
Scott, I do agree with the theme of what you saw. I saw a lot of the E-dance crowd there and did not see many familiar long time resident faces, but then I drove by in the AM not PM.
But I was also doing 25 MPH.
RE: Pahoa Woodland Center Protest - Rob Tucker - 06-19-2009
I don't see the point of whether the people protesting were born and raised here or moved here yesterday.
It is all within their civil rights and the event was peaceful.
Net effect? Anyone?
RE: Pahoa Woodland Center Protest - Guest - 06-19-2009
every one has a right to protest peacefull in what they believe
RE: Pahoa Woodland Center Protest - Dave Smith - 06-19-2009
quote:
Research across the country shows that about 12 to 15 cents of a one dollar expenditure at chains remain in the local economy; while 40 to 50 cents of that dollar remains in the the local economy when the expenditure is at a smaller, locally owned independent store.
Sure, it would be better to have local businesses moving in, but unless Paul had a choice, it appears that the businesses that could step up did. At least they will provide some jobs, which is better than no jobs, and save gas by reducing the number of trips to Keaau or Hilo.
RE: Pahoa Woodland Center Protest - Rob Tucker - 06-19-2009
I recall someone saying a few years ago... "what we need in Pahoa is a shoe store".
So I suggested that they open one and promised to buy the first pair of shoes.
For years I found myself at Supercuts getting haircuts. Until I got to Jan's. There's nothing like Jan's anywhere else and I always leave a tip.
Aloha Jan. Great neck massages.
RE: Pahoa Woodland Center Protest - JerryCarr - 06-19-2009
I respect and support the protestors' right to express themselves, regardless of where they come from or how long they have been here. I still wish some of that energy would be diverted into demanding or providing nutritional education beginning in pre-school. And it's not just the fast food chains dishing out junk, either. Some of the "local" places serve up greasy meat in greasy gravy on a pile of white rice topped by a factory farm produced fried egg loaded with cholesterol, antibiotics, and hormones. Mmmmmm.
Cheers,
Jerry
RE: Pahoa Woodland Center Protest - james weatherford - 06-19-2009
Right Rob, it is not possible to buy a pair of work boots in Puna (other than rubber boots).
quote:
Originally posted by Rob Tucker
I recall someone saying a few years ago... "what we need in Pahoa is a shoe store".
So I suggested that they open one and promised to buy the first pair of shoes.
For years I found myself at Supercuts getting haircuts. Until I got to Jan's. There's nothing like Jan's anywhere else and I always leave a tip.
Aloha Jan. Great neck massages.
James Weatherford, Ph.D.
15-1888 Hialoa
Hawaiian Paradise Park