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RE: Vaccinated People Spread The Delta Variant, CDC Says - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-23-2021
Ivermectin... hour-long interview:...And here is Dr. Campbell's 22 minute condensed recap:
Thanks My 2 cents, perhaps that information will be helpful to someone on the fence, who isn't vaccinated. For myself, I was looking for a quick answer. I'm vaccinated so I'm only curious why someone else would take Ivermectin. I feel like I'm covered and have a thousand other things I can do with an hour of my time. Unless there's a study out there from a reputable source that says - - Ivermectin is far better and more effective than the COVID vaccines.
RE: Vaccinated People Spread The Delta Variant, CDC Says - sistersue - 08-23-2021
(08-23-2021, 08:58 PM)HereOnThePrimalEdge Wrote: Ivermectin... hour-long interview:...And here is Dr. Campbell's 22 minute condensed recap:You're spending too much time conversing with this person. He's just doing it to bug you and it's working. No one in their right mind would take dog wormer! Tune out the trolls.
Thanks My 2 cents, perhaps that information will be helpful to someone on the fence, who isn't vaccinated. For myself, I was looking for a quick answer. I'm vaccinated so I'm only curious why someone else would take Ivermectin. I feel like I'm covered and have a thousand other things I can do with an hour of my time. Unless there's a study out there from a reputable source that says - - Ivermectin is far better and more effective than the COVID vaccines.
RE: Vaccinated People Spread The Delta Variant, CDC Says - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-23-2021
He's just doing it to bug you and it's working.
Doesn’t bug me at all.
I kind of enjoy posting facts and figures.
RE: Vaccinated People Spread The Delta Variant, CDC Says - TomK - 08-24-2021
(08-23-2021, 06:41 PM)My 2 cents Wrote: The question I have is what happens to the other vaccines? They are still under the EUA. So, now that there is a FDA approved vaccine, will the others be discontinued?
Why would they be discontinued? Someone has to come first but that doesn't mean everyone else is disqualified. I don't understand the point you're trying to make, that's if you have one in the first place.
(08-23-2021, 06:21 PM)kander Wrote:(08-23-2021, 05:35 PM)MyManao Wrote:And just like I said they would have to throw the rule book out the window, the clinical trials wont be done until 2023.kander Wrote: Wrote:The FDA is not going throw away years of safety methodology for an experimental injection without the years of safety data. Unless you think the talking heads on tv are correct in their assumption..
Chalk one up for the talking heads!
From... https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/23/fda-pfizer-biontech-covid-vaccine-wins-full-approval-clearing-path-to-mandates.html
FDA grants full approval to Pfizer-BioNTech’s Covid shot
The Food and Drug Administration on Monday granted full approval to Pfizerand BioNTech’s Covid-19 vaccine – becoming the first in the U.S. to win the coveted designation and giving even more businesses, schools and universities greater confidence to adopt vaccine mandates.
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04368728?cond=rna+vaccine+candidate&draw=2&rank=1
Does that mean Phizer is responsible for injury now? I sure hope so, people stroking out and having sudden hear problems need relief.
It's "Pfizer" and I'm sure if someone can show that they were harmed by the vaccine they will get compensated. Unfortunately, the thousands who have died or are now suffering from long Covid or have bankrupted themselves due to the US health system, because they didn't take a free vaccine, now wish they had made a better choice.
RE: Vaccinated People Spread The Delta Variant, CDC Says - My 2 cents - 08-24-2021
(08-23-2021, 08:58 PM)HereOnThePrimalEdge Wrote: Ivermectin... hour-long interview:...And here is Dr. Campbell's 22 minute condensed recap:
Thanks My 2 cents, perhaps that information will be helpful to someone on the fence, who isn't vaccinated. For myself, I was looking for a quick answer. I'm vaccinated so I'm only curious why someone else would take Ivermectin. I feel like I'm covered and have a thousand other things I can do with an hour of my time. Unless there's a study out there from a reputable source that says - - Ivermectin is far better and more effective than the COVID vaccines.
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I figured the condensed version would be more appreciated. I included the long version for verification, and just in case someone wanted to see it.
Mostly I’m a bit surprised that this is new to folks here. FLCCC has been developing treatment protocol for covid since the beginning, and studying Ivermectin’s effects for a year. Oh well, I’m not trying to convince anyone of anything. Just sharing information. Take it or leave it, no problem.
RE: Vaccinated People Spread The Delta Variant, CDC Says - TomK - 08-24-2021
(08-24-2021, 10:26 AM)My 2 cents Wrote:(08-23-2021, 08:58 PM)HereOnThePrimalEdge Wrote: Ivermectin... hour-long interview:...And here is Dr. Campbell's 22 minute condensed recap:
Thanks My 2 cents, perhaps that information will be helpful to someone on the fence, who isn't vaccinated. For myself, I was looking for a quick answer. I'm vaccinated so I'm only curious why someone else would take Ivermectin. I feel like I'm covered and have a thousand other things I can do with an hour of my time. Unless there's a study out there from a reputable source that says - - Ivermectin is far better and more effective than the COVID vaccines.
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I figured the condensed version would be more appreciated. I included the long version for verification, and just in case someone wanted to see it.
Mostly I’m a bit surprised that this is new to folks here. FLCCC has been developing treatment protocol for covid since the beginning, and studying Ivermectin’s effects for a year. Oh well, I’m not trying to convince anyone of anything. Just sharing information. Take it or leave it, no problem.
Or just get vaccinated and the chances you'll need treatment to save your life is significantly reduced, and you won't have to take up a hospital bed in the meantime.
RE: Vaccinated People Spread The Delta Variant, CDC Says - MyManao - 08-27-2021
(08-06-2021, 04:37 AM)AaronM Wrote: Without any context, numbers are just numbers..
Here's a few numbers and some context..
Today in Hawaii we broke our record for total number of current hospitalizations with 426 being reported. And, I know, as a number just standing there on it's own it needs some context..
This evening, on Hawaii News Now's website, is a feature titled...
Green warns ‘life-preserving restrictions’ looming as city deploys mortuary trailer to morgue
That starts with..
COVID hospitalizations Thursday hit a new all-time high for the fourth time this week, with 427 patients sick with the virus being treated in facilities across the state.
Health officials said 87% of them are unvaccinated.
With no signs of Hawaii’s COVID surge slowing, Lt. Gov. Josh Green said Thursday he plans to call for “life-preserving restrictions” if the number of people hospitalized with COVID reaches 500.
“If the numbers don’t plateau, the governor will have to order additional restrictions,” Green said, adding, “probably a serious lockdown.”And continues with..
Green’s comments follow his recent discussions with hospital leaders, who made it clear that together they can handle no more than 710 COVID patients.
“Getting to 700 or 710 would take a Herculean effort of moving patients around, getting extra staff in place. But we could provide that much care,” Green told Hawaii News Now. “That’s before we would see such a crisis that we would see loss of life over and above just the tragedy of COVID.”
Above quotes are from.. https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2021/08/27/green-warns-life-preserving-restrictions-are-looming-city-deploys-mortuary-trailer-morgue/
And just to get some sense of what this means going forward.. ie when do we hit 500 people hospitalized?
I went to.. https://hiema-hub.hawaii.gov/pages/covid-dashboard
And was able to drill down, via a tab close to the bottom of the page titled Hospitalization, and found a graph showing number of hospitalizations by day (no unique URL - you gotta follow that tab). And found that the numbers are...
426 - Today
352 - One week ago
275 - Two weeks ago
164 - Three weeks ago
114 - Four weeks ago.
And based on that it looks like we'll hit 500 in a week.
So, what? Lockdowns in two?
And.. as an aside.. somewhere in all the reporting today Green also said we should have a Vaccine Passport system in place by Labor Day.
RE: Vaccinated People Spread The Delta Variant, CDC Says - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 08-27-2021
Confusion and contradictory messaging within the Native Hawaiian community, resulting in low vaccination rates & high transmission numbers:
The backlash she faced over her vaccination status isn’t helping convince people in her community to get vaccinated, she said.
“If you have to crucify me and make an example out of me in front of my community … if you think somehow that’s going to make people want to do it, it’s like that’s the opposite because people trust others and they respect others in our community,” she said.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/covid-19-surge-pummels-hawaii-043714300.html
RE: Vaccinated People Spread The Delta Variant, CDC Says - randomq - 08-28-2021
I can't believe the narrative that Hawaiian communities aren't taking the vaccine because of distrust of the US government over the 1893 overthrow. First of all, that's completely illogical and the evidence is plain as day that the vaccines are saving lives of every ethnicity. Second, native Hawaiians were nearly wiped out by measles, smallpox, etc after establishing trade with the rest of the world. Is that history forgotten?
RE: Vaccinated People Spread The Delta Variant, CDC Says - kalakoa - 08-28-2021
The new strategy appears to be "maximize revenue at the expense of public health".
I base this on the posture of the last few weeks: "restrictions are coming", "hospitals approaching capacity", "lockdowns could happen", etc, while the numbers keep going up and up. Compare/contrast with last year, when we had all manner of restrictions despite numbers which seem very low by today's standards.
Put no faith in the statements of LG Green nor the Mayors; under the Emergency Declaration, only Ige can make decisions. Which he is not.
Remember, COVID can tell the difference between tourists and residents, the surge is all caused by "community spread" and not tourism, especially not residents who are touring Vegas for the weekend.