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RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - Punatang - 01-16-2025
Worrying about who's online when is like being an obsessed stalker. Who gives a hoot? How people choose to present is none of anyone else's business.
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - kalianna - 01-16-2025
Paddleman, to hide whether you are online, click on your user profile on the top left of the page. Click on edit options. Under privacy, check the "hide me from whoʻs online" box. This is for those who sensibly value their privacy. Another very useful feature to, for example, hide Karens who go on and on, is to click on their name in a post theyʻve made and then choose "Add to Ignore List". And bear in mind that the know it all Karen who so strongly objects to anyone who values their privacy has been booted off this site twice already.
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - Patricia - 01-16-2025
Oh geez... Really? Some of you really need to grow up.
Obie, how would Mainlanders or even some non- Hawaii (island) residents have ANY reference at all about where, location-wise, you are speaking? Let alone have any time reference.
How HPPOA came about and what their focus (clubhouse, golf course, Mainland retiree interests, and MORE non-local concerns) was relevant then (1980) and still is now. It is a mindset that has prevailed for decades. Though the clubhouse and golf course have been replaced with other "so much more" wants.
As for paving the HPPOA parking lot. I will have to research how that was paid for. Still, the office and staff must utilize that area. And as the office and staff predominantly exist to conduct road maintenance activities, I would say that paving the area for the office and staff, who also are paid for with road fee money makes sense (just as County employees, who work in County buildings and are paid with County money, park in parking lots that are paved and also paid for with County money.).
I just finished a "movie day" with my mother. I make her a nice lunch. We eat and imbibe, she picks a fun, usually nonsensical movie for us to watch. I am fortunate. And I realize this. Unlike so many, I STILL have a parent with whom I can visit, share time, and enjoy.
Puna? HPP? HPPOA? Yes, they matter. And I very much feel people have the right to information and history (which also VERY MUCH matters). This is why, on top of everything else, I will try my best to make sure that information and history are not limited to a select few. Because that has been the problem all along- the select few trying to bury or discount history and information and run "the show" the way THEY want it to be.
Apparently "diversity" is fine, as long as those "differences" do not interfere with the "so much more" mindset.
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - HiloJulie - 01-16-2025
(01-15-2025, 06:30 PM)Patricia Wrote: Also, HiloJulie, what happened with our discussion?
You ask questions, expect answers, and others give answers, but you are not always as forthcoming. Did you not find a Funding Model (several) that are worth consideration?
Oh gosh Patricia. I am really sorry that you think I did not respond our discussion in an acceptable timely matter to you, but today, while not as fun as cleaning gnats I'm sure, but I was on “Barney” medical duty today taking him to the vet for his 6 month teeth cleaning and shots and all that and they have to dope him up to clean his teeth so I went and did some shopping before I could come back to the vet to pick him up and “pour” him into my front seat of the car and drive him home, but it clearly appears to me you are not thoroughly reading each posters posts. I assume you must be too busy quoting and replying and re-quoting your replies and calling other posters names while complaining about name calling… Oh well, I’m quite sure you know the game all too well!
So, here please refer to Post 169 my first response to your 10 nonprofit fundraising suggestions.
Then I went on to offer my suggestion as to what the USPS should have done years ago with this Post 175
And then, well you know me, go to throw in some humor and a little wit now and then, even self-depreciating humor and wit with Post 190
Please enjoy catching up and reading my 3 posts you think I’m not too forthcoming with that I had posted yesterday.
As for my opinion(s) of posters using the “hidden” setting, all I will say anymore is it speaks to your real character. And yes, Punatang, you can be whatever the hell it is you want to be.
As for trying to give instructions as to the 4 separate keystrokes needed, I am quite sure you can figure that all out by yourselves.
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - Patricia - 01-16-2025
Until, not too long ago, Puna was one of the most affordable places to buy property in Hawaii. But no longer. How many young, local families can afford the cost of a house? Rent? And WHY is this?
It isn't just the economy that is driving up costs. When you want more, it costs more. SO MUCH MORE
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-16-2025
HPPOA parking lot… Still, the office and staff must utilize that area. And as the office and staff predominantly exist to conduct road maintenance activities, I would say that paving the area for the office and staff, who also are paid for with road fee money makes sense
There are three main buildings in the HPPOA cluster:
The office
The maintenance shed
The Community Center
The largest parking lot is for the Community Center which has no role in road maintenance. It is for the HPP community. Like mailboxes would be for the HPP community.
So again, is there room for additional mailboxes at the existing roadside locations, if not, where should they go?
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - Patricia - 01-16-2025
(Yesterday, 03:14 AM)HereOnThePrimalEdge Wrote: HPPOA parking lot… Still, the office and staff must utilize that area. And as the office and staff predominantly exist to conduct road maintenance activities, I would say that paving the area for the office and staff, who also are paid for with road fee money makes sense
There are three main buildings in the HPPOA cluster:
The office
The maintenance shed
The Community Center
The largest parking lot is for the Community Center which has no role in road maintenance. It is for the HPP community. Like mailboxes would be for the HPP community.
So again, is there room for additional mailboxes at the existing roadside locations, if not, where should they go?
I do not recall you asking that question, "is there room for additional mailboxes at the existing roadside locations." But yes, I know others who have conducted that research.
In addition, and as I said, how the existing HPPOA parking lot was paved and paid for needs to be researched. Regardless, paving mailbox pavillion areas are not the same as road maintenance. Just as paving the Walmart parking has nothing to do with and is not financed in the same way as the County Courthouse parking lot.
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 01-16-2025
But yes, I know others who have conducted that research.
And they found room for 8000 mailboxes at the existing roadside locations? Have you seen their dimensions and how many locations there are? “Others” must be talking about matchbox size Menehune mailboxes. I’m talking about real normal size mailboxes.
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - HiloJulie - 01-16-2025
(01-15-2025, 09:11 PM)Patricia Wrote: Parking lots, just like driveways, are not roads. The County does not use their road budget to pave Walmart, Safeway, or any Hilo business parking lot (unless it's a County business).
But then again, refresh my memory, but who is expected to put up 50ish million for a park?
If we are going to measure "bangs for bucks" paving Walmart's and Safeway's parking lot just might be the better expense.
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - Patricia - 01-16-2025
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I hope you found something enjoyable to laugh at today. Though driving with some dogs can be challenging. We have a dog who gets carsick just jumping into the back-seat.