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RE: Potential restrictions to Mauna Kea access - kimo wires - 07-25-2015
Hypocrites. Desecration is being done by the protesters. They dishonor their ancestors.
All for the mighty western dollar. Sick...
RE: Potential restrictions to Mauna Kea access - punaticbychoice - 07-25-2015
HiloPuna@ 09:00:44
My point exactly. And it is more than just Hawaii.
Thank you for "getting it".
It is very painful for this person, more than most
on this site comprehend, perhaps. Thanks again.
RE: Potential restrictions to Mauna Kea access - Guest - 07-25-2015
Mahalo Dakine for the great advice. Bare with me as I try to post another link that is short and sweet. http://bsnorrell.blogspot.com/2015/04/univ-arizona-assaults-apache-at-mount.html
RE: Potential restrictions to Mauna Kea access - kalakoa - 07-25-2015
Despite the many apparent similarities between Mauna Kea and Mount Graham, there is one very major difference:
Native Americans have legal recognition and actual sovereignty.
RE: Potential restrictions to Mauna Kea access - Guest - 07-25-2015
Good point kalakoa, maybe a bit more at stake atop the summit than just the TMT? Jmo, The Mountain of Maunakea is a perfect place to stand ground or rise up, many reasons for the Hawaiian people. Maunakea would be a nice chip to have at any bartering table just a couple of centuries ago, even more so today. Two wrongs shouldn't make america right. Freedoms and recognitions have been earned, served, and worked for by these Hawaiian people,jmo.
RE: Potential restrictions to Mauna Kea access - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-25-2015
Freedoms and recognitions have been earned, served, and worked for by these Hawaiian people,jmo.
gypsy, explain? examples?
RE: Potential restrictions to Mauna Kea access - Guest - 07-25-2015
Hotpe. The statement written was only an opinion of mine. If I try to explain it to you and the trolls, it would only be reconstructed or ridiculed. I do miss the actor John Candy as he may have been able to explain it in a way you would understand it, or at least be able to except it a little easier. He was just great in movies like the great outdoors, trains planes and automobiles, even the ones he acted with Tom Hanks or Bill Murray serving in the Armed forces or peace corps. I just can't remember the names of those movies, pretty sure you would know the movies.
Growing up here on the island, i have always been one of the whitest Caucasians (haole)I like to say I glow in the dark. Many of my teachers in school were Hawaiian( with exceptional patients). Also been blessed with many good friends who have Hawaiian blood, who have served for the guard here within the islands or even been sent to hostile countries in times of American need. The way the hawaiians have shared, taught, and worked along side me for over 40 years has made me feel the way I do. If I was asked to leave the islands in respect to the hawaiians needing time, I would gladly walk away thankful and humble. Jmo, I never really thought I owed anything anyway.
RE: Potential restrictions to Mauna Kea access - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-25-2015
Hawaiian blood, who have served for the guard ... or even been sent to hostile countries in times of American need... hawaiians have shared, taught, and worked along side me... If I was asked to leave the islands in respect to the hawaiians needing time, I would gladly walk away
Would you say people of all nationalities have done the same for their Hawaiian brothers & sisters? Haoles fighting to defend Pearl Harbor, putting their lives on the line during World War II so the Hawaiian people would not be subjected to the same treatment as other Pacific Islanders were during that time?
What about the Hawaiian people on the mainland? Do you think they would all gladly walk away from their homes and the lives they have built up over many years to return to Hawaii? Do you think they would all feel the same as you do, that they could walk away from California or Nevada, owed nothing if they had to return to their new nation?
RE: Potential restrictions to Mauna Kea access - PunaMauka2 - 07-25-2015
Diagnosis: faux-cultural Stockholm Syndrome.
RE: Potential restrictions to Mauna Kea access - punaticbychoice - 07-25-2015
The re-establishment of a Hawaiian Nation (Kingdom or otherwise) here would take an immense amount of cooperation and effort from all here. It seems a majority of Kanaka Maoli are not even here in and on the Hawaiian Islands.
Lots of issues to work out.
Or as I've said here before is the TMT issue just a shakedown initiated and planned by some self-interested people?