+- Punaweb Forum (http://punaweb.org/forum)
+-- Forum: Punaweb Forums (http://punaweb.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=3)
+--- Forum: Punatalk (http://punaweb.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=10)
+--- Thread: dengue fever could be here to stay (/showthread.php?tid=16590)
RE: dengue fever could be here to stay - Obie - 12-22-2015
quote:
Originally posted by gypsy69
Low blow Obie-one. Not a bit surprising that you could not offer anything constructive to yet another community concerned thread. Please Go back to defending this areas Geothermal production, GMO crops, and cops that run bikers over. Bitching and whineing more about old grandfathered cesspools, proper tourist parking, lower speed limits, or illegal lodging and unpaid taxes in your neck of the woods always works too.
My good friend had only the best intentions for his family of five that were living on this P.P property for the last two years. The owner of the property just passed away six months ago in a nursing home. She was adament about things remaining the same around her place until she did pass. The old paint cans, bottles, catfood cans, tires, garbage, waste, and five gallon buckets filled with standing water and mosquito larva are just buried beneath the over grown brush EVERYWHERE around this acre. I truly cant see how only the spraying method is going to be the answer to ridding the mosquitoes or dengue in that particular area of p.park, very concerning as this is only the beginning of Puna's dengue outbreak.
What would you suggest be done with this highly contagious dengue infected area in P.P. now Obie and Pog?
RE: dengue fever could be here to stay - Guest - 12-22-2015
Why repost my posts Obie? If you like Obie I could explain what caused the Ohia tree cancer around the Ormat Geothermal power plant here in lower Puna. Still would only be my opinion on an open forum, Probably worth reposting though?
RE: dengue fever could be here to stay - Kapoho Joe - 12-22-2015
Yawn.
RE: dengue fever could be here to stay - dmbwest - 12-22-2015
+ 1, 2 and 3 Obie for dredging out/up the true,,, Gy/B.S./y ........... LOL.
Notice all the, well,,, everything.
Thank you for the Christmas PreSENT
aloha,
pog
RE: dengue fever could be here to stay - TomK - 12-22-2015
Gypsy wrote:
"Why repost my posts Obie?"
Simply because you have a history of dishonestly deleting your posts after people respond to them.
RE: dengue fever could be here to stay - terracore - 12-23-2015
Looks like Dengue isn't the worst thing Aedes aegypti is spreading: http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/23/health/brazil-zika-pregnancy-warning/index.html
RE: dengue fever could be here to stay - dmbwest - 12-23-2015
I view Gypsy's posts like a simple, EZ to solve, trolling word find.
6 months ago
old paint cans etc...
filled with water
EVERYWHERE
RE: dengue fever could be here to stay - dmbwest - 12-23-2015
"What would you suggest be done with this highly contagious dengue infected area in P.P. now Obie and Pog?"
I would suggest installing a less lackadaisical person than you into this area.
RE: dengue fever could be here to stay - Guest - 12-23-2015
Top of the morning Terracore, mahalo for the link.
That does look like a new virus with similar symtoms to the dengue virus that has been found or reported in Brazil this year. These diseases are known as "Tropical neglected diseases" yet "TOURISM" is what brings or spreads these fine diseases,jmo.
What is a little interesting to me regarding our current dengue virus on the island is the many differing views to how this virus is spreading. I have been asking folks in waimea and Kona lately what they thought about the dengue outbreak? Most responded quickly that it was spreading around the resort areas and within popular tourist camping spots like Mackenzie and Ho'o kena beach parks mainly within the tourists though.
The main stream news or newspapers try to keep an accurate count regularly as to show the great differentials between the two catching this dengue disease(local cases 148, while only 18 tourists cases for example). Maybe the possible future tourism needs to see that it is mainly being spread locally amongst the locals, not the visitors.
The east side of the islands folks don't seem to take the dengue seriously as many think the dengue is mainly in Kona or feel it is spread amongst the hippies and the poor in Kapoho. Again like the coqui frog, fire ant, or dying Ohia trees around these parts, many simply think nothing can be done about it, so except it as our new way of life on the big island. If it don't kill you and the baby mosquitoes dont carry the mothers disease no problems then.
RE: dengue fever could be here to stay - shockwave rider - 12-23-2015
Gypsy: "I have been asking folks in waimea and Kona lately what they thought about the dengue outbreak? Most responded quickly that it was spreading around the resort areas and within popular tourist camping spots like Mackenzie and Ho'o kena beach parks mainly within the tourists though."
Scary if widely true, statistically, the great majority of known cases have been amongst residents.
DOH is now sharing the number of known infectious cases with each announcement. I realize that we don't know how many undiagnosed cases there are, but the low numbers of infectious cases is reassuring. I would have to get bitten by a skeeter that bit an infected person about 5 days ago, so the actual odds of getting infected are pretty low. Ultimately, it is not really a "highly infectious" disease, because the method of infection is pretty inefficient, since it must go through a mosquito, compared to an air born disease like influenza or spread by contact disease like norovirus, you have to be in pretty close proximity to mosquitos that are also in close proximity to infected people who are going outside to infect the mosquitos.
If sick people get tested, and then self quarantine like any responsible person would, then spread to new mosquitos would be limited to the tiny window between being infectious and having symptoms. If Gypsy's friends want to stop the spread in their neighborhood they need to be keeping their sick family members indoors and away from mosquitos, even during the period when they feel better but are still infectious. That is what the family I know who had a family member as one of the first cases did. She stayed indoors with windows closed for 3 weeks, but there have been no new cases where she lives or works. People spread this, not mosquitos, the mosquitos only travel a few hundred yards at most, but people can spread this all over the islands if they do not take responsibility for not spreading the disease to new victims./