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RE: Building a new town in South Puna - SBH - 09-20-2014
My point being if minimal goods and services are not available south of the lava flow it will become a ghost town eventually since commuting that far will be unsustainable for the majority of people. Minimal services will need to be brought to the community rather than 9000 people driving 3-4 hours round trip for a gallon of milk or diapers every day.
RE: Building a new town in South Puna - leilaniguy - 09-20-2014
If there is demand it will come.
RE: Building a new town in South Puna - MainlanderTourist - 09-21-2014
Something like this could be considered ...
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/sep/16/quartyard-containers-park-temporary-development/
RE: Building a new town in South Puna - freespirit - 09-21-2014
Will the state still make everyone pay property taxes that still has a home?
Many do not own their home and are renting in this area because rent is less in our area then other parts of the island.
HELCO has an emergency plan to continue power so there will be an option for power if people choose. People can live without power and pumped water and can grow thier own food.. but if the state still insists on taxes and/or a family is living in a rental home they can afford those households are going to need some form of income.
RE: Building a new town in South Puna - leilanidude - 09-21-2014
Will the state still make everyone pay property taxes that still has a home?
Yes.
RE: Building a new town in South Puna - Punaperson - 09-21-2014
Keep in mind that if any stores and/or services open south of the flow, the prices they will have to charge to stay in business will make Malama Market seem like a bargain. Transportation time and gas costs will make any ‘convenience’ very expensive. Many moved to that part of Puna because it was cheap. Probably not any more.
RE: Building a new town in South Puna - snorkle - 09-21-2014
I've never been to Hana, Maui, but imagine that town is in a similar situation. Geographically isolated from the rest of the Island by a 50 mile narrow, twisty road. I realize there aren't as many people there(1200), but I'm sure the ones there are happy with the isolation and do well.
RE: Building a new town in South Puna - csgray - 09-21-2014
quote:
Originally posted by geochem
quote:Mauna Loa resurfaces itself at an interval of several thousand years, Kilauea at an interval considerably shorter. Nowhere in Hawaii (or anywhere else) is perfectly safe from loss, but it's just plain foolish to encourage - or enable - development in high hazard areas. The cost to the County and the State of responding to this disaster will be in the $100,000's to $Millions that neither government has to spare - and that's aside from the State and County infrastructure that will be lost. And, no doubt, the HPIA will be calling on State General Funds to cover their losses from this inevitable event. Why should the State and County taxpayers subsidize/indemnify against predictable losses?
Originally posted by SBango
Let's not rebuild Hilo after a lava flow from Mauna Loa wipes it out either. Good thinking.
Sheila Bang
All those resorts in Kona are downhill from Holualoa, which is way overdue and will be a FAST flow when it finally opens up, same thing with Mauna Loa for South Kona. The only safe place on the Big Island from volcanic eruption is Kohala. So the state and county has recently spent millions on roads in those areas, development of multi million dollar resorts and golf course retirement communities continues, with all the infrastructure that goes with it.
So to quote geochem "Why should the State and County taxpayers subsidize/indemnify against predictable losses?" Those places only have the illusion of being any safer than Puna from volcanic activity, and they will have far less warning of the danger, due to the steepness of the terrain.
edited for pre caffeine typos
Carol
Every time you feel yourself getting pulled into other people's nonsense, repeat these words: Not my circus, not my monkeys.
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RE: Building a new town in South Puna - james weatherford - 09-21-2014
quote:
Originally posted by snorkle
I've never been to Hana, Maui, ...
Interesting for sure.
Hana has an airstrip.
RE: Building a new town in South Puna - freespirit - 09-21-2014
quote:
Originally posted by leilanidude
Will the state still make everyone pay property taxes that still has a home?
Yes.
Exactely so everyone still living in the lower section either by renting or owning a home will still have to have income of some type.
Unless they go on welfare which is never a good thing.
There may be a venue to make income in the tourist industry.