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RE: Maui GMO ban overturned - geochem - 07-16-2015
Who exactly do you think is behind the fear-mongering campaign against GMO technology? All the paid shills - all the bogus articles. Someone with a lot more money than the working farmer is paying for all that...
RE: Maui GMO ban overturned - Hapunatic - 07-16-2015
quote:There's some Aloha for you! What an a**! Welcome to Puna and Punaweb Newgirl.
Originally posted by rainyjim
You are a loon, why don't you try actually reading the link and it will answer all of your questions. No one has the time or inclination to address your many unwarranted fears.
I hear the swishing sound of Punaweb circling the toilet bowl about to be flushed.
RE: Maui GMO ban overturned - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-16-2015
Punaweb circling
She does ask questions along with her posts.
It seems to me she is open to new information, probably more so if offered in a friendly manner.
RE: Maui GMO ban overturned - rainyjim - 07-16-2015
Okay try this on for size.
If you have questions about GMOs please read this article it should serve to answer your questions and assuage your fears.
Alohas
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2015/07/are_gmos_safe_yes_the_case_against_them_is_full_of_fraud_lies_and_errors.html?wpsrc=sh_all_dt_tw_ru
ETA: the link!
RE: Maui GMO ban overturned - Newgirl - 07-16-2015
Heh. So I'm a loon now because I didn't accept the opinion of some conservative writer on Slate? I am a bit taken aback by the nastiness of your tone, what's in it for you that you think everyone should just accept GMO without question? I doubt you're making money from selling herbicides, but maybe you are, I don't know.
The islands' papaya experience is nothing like the industrial farming going on in the heartland, and that's not a world I would want for my kids. Even though GE could mean many methods, the one that I'm most concerned about is the use of resistances to specific chemicals. I don't dream about chickens with 6 legs, what worries me at night is the plight of one of my kids suffering from a gut disease wherein the doctor tells her that it's probably hereditary (nope, that's not it) and treats her with a shot that has a $12K price tag each time she gets one.
If you want to talk science and articles, how about a real one, not an opinion piece written by a another non-scientist?
Glyphosate’s Suppression of Cytochrome P450 Enzymes and Amino Acid Biosynthesis by the Gut Microbiome: Pathways to Modern Diseases
http://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/15/4/1416
That one was submitted to the NIH by an honest to goodness scientist.
RE: Maui GMO ban overturned - pahoated - 07-16-2015
State preempts county, federal preempts state. The US House has passed a bill to ban mandatory GMO labeling, as recently passed by a couple of states.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/14/us-usa-gmo-labeling-idUSKCN0PO2MM20150714
U.S. House committee approves anti-GMO labeling law
It will probably go to the US Supreme Court. This will make all your lawyer friends happy, drinks and strippers on the house, the money starts rolling in. Why does everybody have so much problem with the government and not with the lawyers behind the scenes stuffing their pockets with fees? The title of the article shows how mangled this acronym has become with social media. GMO is a slang, street-wit term. GMO is actually Genetic Engineering. The people that are protesting it are the same ones that flunked geometry and put up a temper tantrum until geometry classes are banned. There are developments that are unfolding that may make the entire issue moot.
"Aloha also means goodbye. Aloha!"
RE: Maui GMO ban overturned - Newgirl - 07-16-2015
It passed the house, but it won't go to the Supreme Court unless it passes the Senate and the bill is signed.
Makes you wonder why they go through such lengths to hide what's in your food.
RE: Maui GMO ban overturned - knieft - 07-16-2015
Normally I don't stop at the troll bridge, but...within a ten second google search:
http://scholarlyoa.com/2013/05/16/more-controversy-over-open-access-publisher-mdpi/
It may be that the problem with GMO's is that the organic/natural crowd left the technology to the corporations instead of using it to "do good" making foods more nutritious and pest-resistant...
Cheers,
Kirt
RE: Maui GMO ban overturned - Newgirl - 07-16-2015
Except that Entropy had nothing to do with the research, they're just publishing what was submitted to the NIH.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3945755/
There is a quite a bit more at the NIH site on the topic.
I'm not against GE in general, I'm sure there's a lot of good it can do. But controlling world's commodity food source is not one of them.
RE: Maui GMO ban overturned - knieft - 07-16-2015
Newgirl.
Happy trails...