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RE: Property value estimates - My 2 cents - 07-08-2018
I am assuming that the deeds to these properties are similar to the ones on the other islands but perhaps they are not. Perhaps there is a "lava clause" or maybe an ocean boundary that has more definite wording than "high water mark" or "vegetation line".
RE: Property value estimates - kalakoa - 07-10-2018
County is in the middle of purchasing this lava land to preserve open space:
http://qpublic9.qpublic.net/hi_hawaii_display.php?county=hi_hawaii&KEY=140020220000
http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/2018/07/10/hawaii-news/lava-inundates-most-of-parcel-county-is-buying-for-open-space/
$2.7M / 284 acres = $9507/acre.
Somehow, this 1084-acre parcel is only worth $249K ($230/acre).
http://qpublic9.qpublic.net/hi_hawaii_display.php?county=hi_hawaii&KEY=140020020000
The next large parcel above that ($885K / 192 acres = $4609/acre) is tax-exempt:
http://qpublic9.qpublic.net/hi_hawaii_display.php?county=hi_hawaii&KEY=140030130000
would property assessments or valuations decrease?
It's less than clear what "valuation" even means anymore.
RE: Property value estimates - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-10-2018
County is in the middle of purchasing this lava land to preserve open space:
The county doesn’t know if it can stop the sale?
What about doing what everybody else does, withdraw the offer & let seller keep the earnest money. If seller sues, the County can ask seller what they consider fair market value on the land, and tax it at accordingly.
RE: Property value estimates - kalakoa - 07-10-2018
What about doing what everybody else does, withdraw the offer & let seller keep the earnest money.
"everybody else" can't just print more free money.
RE: Property value estimates - Obie - 07-10-2018
This property includes what was once the tidepools.
When you looked out to the ocean from the road, the property extended out to the surf. The state never got around to claiming ownership.
All of that area could be a new subdivision if the lava quits.
RE: Property value estimates - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-25-2018
According to one East Hawaii realtor, the real estate market in Puna is red hot:
"We already had a housing shortage for quite some time, and it's gotten worse. We have a lack of inventory, a lack of supply, a great demand. We're seeing prices going up, sales happening faster, more multiple offers. Especially in housing under $400,000 dollars, that's the greatest demand. Anything around $300,000 dollars gets snapped up. We're talking how many hours is it on the market, versus days."
http://www.hawaiipublicradio.org/post/lava-s-real-estate-impact
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RE: Property value estimates - MarkD - 07-25-2018
It seems to be a somewhat paradoxical situation: Raw land inexpensive, relative to the price of lots with homes. In part because evacuees are competing for a finite number of homes?
RE: Property value estimates - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-30-2018
“Well, Volcano’s dead,” said real estate agent Pat Halpern
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Puna District, where Volcano is located, has suffered less of a downturn than may be expected.
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Hawaiian Paradise Park, Orchidland and Ainaloa are particularly active markets.
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Pa predicted that eventually, Pahoa may become “the new Volcano Village,” attracting retirees and visitors alike with its close proximity to the lava flow.
http://www.westhawaiitoday.com/2018/07/29/hawaii-news/getting-real-about-the-land-market/
Pahoa, the New Volcano Village? That's an interesting prediction.
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