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RE: LZ1/LZ2 building restrictions "counterproductive" - glinda - 07-11-2018
since the unthinkable actually happened in our lifetimes...
The unthinkable? Nah, it was predicted. Drawn up and published by the feds no less. Reproduced over and over in every example that could be made without being accused of undue influence.
Zone 1 - Includes summits and rift zones of Kilauea and Mauna Loa volcanoes, where vents have been repeatedly active in historical time.
Zone 2 - Areas adjacent to and downslope of zone 1. 15-25% of zone 2 has been covered by lava since 1800, and 25-75% has been covered within the past 750 years. Relative hazard within zone 2 decreases gradually as one moves away from zone 1.
Does it need to be clearer than that?
RE: LZ1/LZ2 building restrictions "counterproductive" - Pilgrim - 07-11-2018
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Glinda - Does it need to be clearer than that?
Well said.
Of course it was laid out perfectly in the scientific literature and a perceptive person could easily find it writ large in the landscape, not to mention the ancient oli and hulas.
Of course most people who made their homes here knew it could happen - but thought we'd never see it in our lifetimes and played the odds.
I think it's a human thing to see the ground underneath your feet as something permanent - something that won't change very much in your lifetime. Watching the ground rip open in your backyard and erupt floods of lava that radically change miles of land in just a few days is a mind blower that's hard to conceive of ahead of time, no matter what you know.
The jagged edges of that reality are what you have to accept to live here. But over time the pointy parts get mellowed by sunset skies and fresh trade winds. They're blunted by whale sounds and double rainbows. Smoothed out by baby luaus and fresh picked avocados from your neighbor. Etc. etc.
It was just so easy to forget.
RE: LZ1/LZ2 building restrictions "counterproductive" - kalakoa - 07-11-2018
It was just so easy to forget.
If only I could forget the taxes I paid to subsidize that lifestyle.
RE: LZ1/LZ2 building restrictions "counterproductive" - Pilgrim - 07-11-2018
Oh well, I pay taxes too and plenty of 'em. I'd really rather not get into a "my tax is bigger than your tax thing" here.
RE: LZ1/LZ2 building restrictions "counterproductive" - kalakoa - 07-12-2018
"my tax is bigger than your tax thing"
Not the point, I'm sure there are others paying more taxes than us.
The issue is: not getting services, because the revenue is always diverted into "mandatory raises" and "emergency response", with tax increases "needed" to cover the original services -- yet somehow higher taxes doesn't result in actual services, because there's another round of mandatory raises and another unforeseen emergency.
Example: it takes up to a year to get a building permit because County is "so overworked" and suffering from "old slow systems". We are somehow supposed to believe that these problems could easily be fixed if only they had more money, but we've been spending more money and the problems aren't going away.
Apparently "everyone else" is willing to tolerate this, and I shouldn't waste the effort to complain.