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RE: Lava Tours Reviewed, Climbing Volcanos - oink - 09-10-2008
After reading both this thread and the earlier one, and visiting the linked sites, I would have to say that Shane's tour sounds a bit dangerous and reckless. I will also have to say that if the lava is still flowing into the sea on my next trip to the island, I will probably pay my money and hop aboard
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
RE: Lava Tours Reviewed, Climbing Volcanos - oink - 09-10-2008
quote:You need to start at first light. You also need to realize that it is a high altitude climb, and pace yourself accordingly. The path is essentially nonexistent in places, it's over both smooth and very rough, sharp lava. The path is often on unstable, loose, and very sharp rock. Bring a wide brimmed hat, sun block, dry clothes in a water proof bag, warm clothes, rain poncho, food and water. Emergency supplies should include a first aid kit, emergency blankets, good flashlights, mirror, fully charged cell phone, etc. Don't forget your camera. If, in white out conditions, don't lose sight of the marker behind you before you sight the one in front. Remember, at that altitude when the sun sets the temp drops real fast. Having said all of that, I highly recommend it. I hope my bad knee will let me do it a few more times. I would love to do the longer hike from the bird park side, but I question the ability of my knee and back to haul the necessary gear for that multi-day hike. Maybe I can get a temporary medical marijuana certificate for the hike[8D] That way maybe my back and knee could stand the pain, but then I would probably get lost[xx(]
Originally posted by Mella
What time of the day did you begin the climb?
PS: If you forget your biodegradable paper, make sure you have a spare pair of drawers[:0]
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
RE: Lava Tours Reviewed, Climbing Volcanos - dakine - 09-10-2008
quote:
Originally posted by Greg
I don't have any doubts about the thrills and natural beauty involved. Answer me this please Shane;
Do you expose your passengers to the fumes and particles in the plume?
Do you approach the bench closer than say, 50 yards?
Thanks
He certainly does, bigtime! And I have the pics to prove it. Sometimes I have seen explosions towering over his boat 3 or 4 times higher than the distance to the boat. As well as there being a danger of rock fragments and ash raining down on his passengers, he is also playing with the possibility of being involved in a bench collapse that could seriously harm, if not kill, all aboard. It's a great idea, ocean tours of the eruption, but considering the dangers involved Shane is (imho) way beyond irresponsible in the way in which he is conducting it. Which is obviously without any professional guidance or understanding of the dangers involved. Russian roulette cowboy style methinks.
RE: Lava Tours Reviewed, Climbing Volcanos - Kelena - 09-10-2008
I like Shane and his death defying ways. He reminds me of people who throw hurricane parties. It is both courting death and death defying at the same time. Start by admitting, from cradle to tomb, it isn't that long a stay! I would never go out on that boat because having used 7 of my 9 lives I am more conservative now. I want it all to last longer. You know --fade away and radiate. Don't wanna sniff nothing that throws little strands of glass into your lungs or touch anything hotter than a warm biscuit -- as much as I'd like to. I especially don't want to be cremated as I drown. But after you've stared down a hurricane, you are willing to watch others accept more risks as they extend their hands to waltz on the water with the Goddess whose name I shall not speak here (wemember -- we must be vewwy quiet!!). We should be proud of Shane and of the most terrifying small business in the world, next to the cobra charmers of India.
RE: Lava Tours Reviewed, Climbing Volcanos - rbakker - 09-10-2008
If someone is willing to expose himself to the danger every day, then I'm willing to visit it once.
Bravo for helping develop the tourist industry.
I've never seen a shelf collapse, but I've read they generate mini tsunamis. At the big 2004 tsunami, the safest place to be was on a boat.
The SF Article says $199 per adult, is that correct? What's the rate for locals?
RE: Lava Tours Reviewed, Climbing Volcanos - Guest - 09-10-2008
quote:Anyone will do anything to make a buck these days.
Originally posted by rbakker
If someone is willing to expose himself to the danger every day, then I'm willing to visit it once....
Bravo for helping develop the tourist industry....
What's the rate for locals?
Bravo for helping develop the tourist industry... WTF??? You mean Exploiting the Tourists? You can thank Mattson folks for the whole tourist industry back a few decades ago.
Rate for locals...
No need give one local rate... cause locals mo smahter den dat.
I think I'll just send a little email to the writer of this article... Something seems fishy. Why a newspaper like this would run an article like that is a whole nother story....
But then again... MANY Papers are just running Press Releases and Editorials as if they were news reports.
See, here's the deal... what does this company do after the lava stops going into the sea.
Do they start offering their "Secret's of Puna" trips offering dips into the Marvelous Champagne Ponds again?
Get em while the money is hot Shane... but just remember... Pele just has to spit at you one time for one of your customers to be dead.
I always remember the phrase... "A sucker is born every minute"
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Glob
RE: Lava Tours Reviewed, Climbing Volcanos - rbakker - 09-10-2008
Giving tourists something that they want to spend money on is called developing the tourist industry, not exploiting tourists. Think of all the extra money being left behind thanks to the helicopter tours, for example. Okay, they can be a bit noisy but that's how they've chosen to structure things here - income from tourism drives the motor.
Hawaii is full of fantastic attractions, most of which are free. Some people don't feel they've had a good holiday until they've laid out some serious money, so give them the opportunity.
Better to do something about the economy than just complain about it.
RE: Lava Tours Reviewed, Climbing Volcanos - Guest - 09-10-2008
quote:
Originally posted by rbakker
... but that's how they've chosen to structure things here - income from tourism drives the motor.....
Better to do something about the economy than just complain about it.
Well with the rising cost of getting here... only the rich will soon be able to enjoy this privilege.
If Hawaii doesn't find a way quickly to break away from the Tourism Dollar... it will be hurting more then it already is.
"Better to do something about the economy than just complain about it"
Trust me... I am.
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Glob
RE: Lava Tours Reviewed, Climbing Volcanos - rbakker - 09-10-2008
Would it be so bad if only the rich could afford to visit here? Okay, it's not fair, but would it be bad?
Less people, less stress on the infrastructure, spending more per head. That's the way some countries choose to do it.
But anyway, oil is dropping so airfares should start coming down.
Hawaii has to generate money somehow. If not tourism then what, heavy industry?
RE: Lava Tours Reviewed, Climbing Volcanos - Guest - 09-10-2008
quote:
Originally posted by rbakker
Hawaii has to generate money somehow. If not tourism then what, heavy industry?
Can you please explain why Hawaii has to generate money?[
]Many people here in Hawaii, don't think money is all that it's meant to be.
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Glob