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RE: Barking Dogs - Carolann R - 12-05-2006
Well the other night I went to the kitchen and turned on the light and lo and behold there on my floor was a cute little coqui. I told Tony and he took him outside and "disposed" of him. I have no idea how he got there, but it was a real eye-opener.
Carrie
"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." Groucho Marx
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RE: Barking Dogs - Carey - 12-05-2006
Carrie, I'm goin' to take a wild guess, and say he hopped! (& then he croaked)(OK, less than a week before finals....can you tell?)
I was amazed when they tented our house there were quite a few croaked coqui's that were inside, and some arond the edges of the tenting...but their population has more than recovered from the frogocide committed on that day.
Aloha, Carey
RE: Barking Dogs - Carolann R - 12-07-2006
Haaahaaa...Carey! I KNOW he hopped...wouldn't you see him hopping in through the door though? I mean, he was small but just amazed me...there he sat in the middle of the kitchen floor. He didn't make a peep (or a "CO-KEE" rather). He was easy enough to catch and Tony handled the frogicide part of it...they really are cute (but NOISY).
Do the birds not find them attractive? I mean, they are out in the day when it's a dreary kinda day you can hear a few of them all day...which actually surprised me a little. You'd think with all the birdlife in the area they would be feasting on the little buggars.
Carrie
"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." Groucho Marx
http://www.hellophoenix.com/art/dreamhawaii.Cfm
RE: Barking Dogs - Les C - 12-07-2006
I think the hours of activity of the Coqui would limit most birds from being an effective predator of the frog. It would probably take a sizeable bird, too, like a chicken, maybe, that ate frogs, to be able to eat them. Hawaiian Crows might have been a possible predator candidate if they were still flying wild and if their range had included Puna. Barn Owls might be a perfect predator, if they eat amphibians.
The perfect predator might be something that would be absolutely horrible for native wildlife, the Brown Tree Snake. It makes me shudder to even think of this snake that has decimated Guam's native bird population (with help from humans, pigs, rats, etc.).
So, why don't barking dogs eat Coqui?
RE: Barking Dogs - Carolann R - 12-07-2006
Les, I have seen a couple of Hawaiian Hawks in the nearby dying albezia...perched way up high...alas, no hope for the demise of the coqui...
I'm soooo not fond of snakes...very happy none are slitherng nearby...hope it stays that way...
Carrie
"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." Groucho Marx
http://www.hellophoenix.com/art/dreamhawaii.Cfm
RE: Barking Dogs - JL - 12-08-2006
Even tho the coqui come alive at night, they are still reachable to a chicken during the day because they sleep in the brush on the ground. I am sure chickens are good at hunting them down.
RE: Barking Dogs - Cindy Blankenship - 03-31-2007
I just ran across this article from Hawaii's Island Journal while searching from something online in their archives. It's from their Ask a Local column:
http://www.hawaiiislandjournal.com/2007/0310e.html
Don't know why I never noticed these issues before when I lived in Puna. Maybe because there are a lot more people here now.
Cindy
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RE: Barking Dogs - Beachboy - 04-01-2007
I don't think we should make a big deal out of barking. I think the vast majority of dogs are owned by folks that want to feel their domain safe. Let's face it, the sound of several big barking dogs will make a thief think twice about trying to steal something from your yard. Nobody in their right mind wants to feel a 500 pound pressure bite upon their okoles in the middle of the night,....especially a thief who's trying to make off with your car stereo! I know I wouldn't wanna lose a piece of my ass for some stolen property..
RE: Barking Dogs - Royall - 04-01-2007
Dogs don't have to bark all night, as some do, just to make their presents known. Nor should owners allow it. On a clear cooler night the barking will travel many blocks. I couldn't live with myself if I had a dog that barked all night or for hours on end. I envy the people that can "tune out" that much noise outside the window. There is one dog in our part of HPP that will go on 4 to 5 hours a night! It is bad enough 1 or 2 streets away from the dog and can't imagine having it next door! I would become a very unhappy neighbor and be calling the police if the owners didn't do something to control the dog. Just my feelings and "said with aloha".
Royall
What goes around comes around!
RE: Barking Dogs - JerryCarr - 04-01-2007
The columnist in Hawaii Island Journal said people should be careful about where they buy property if they don't want to hear dogs barking. Of course one should always become aware of the neighborhood annoyances before buying, but what if someone with noisy dogs moves in AFTER you bought?
As Royall correctly points out, it is possible to have dogs deter burglars without constantly barking. I know this is true because I have done it. Our dogs only bark when strangers approach, and they have stopped at least one burglary. Somebody tried to steal our roto-tiller out of the shed one night and only got it a few feet out the door before being chased away by the dogs.
Yes, it may be a local tradition to keep and/or tolerate loud, barking dogs, but not all traditions are necessarily good. Where I grew up in the South, it was traditional for men to smoke and for everyone to eat lots of pork fat. That has resulted in one of the worst life expectancies and the poorest overall health in the country. That is changing, and the statistics are starting to improve gradually.
Change can be good for you, and good for a culture. We should not have to tolerate unnecessary noise, even coming from man's best friend.
Cheers,
Jerry