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RE: Attention!!! - Guest - 11-29-2011
I believe his salary would actually be $39K, the median income of the US worker. He is also the only candidate serious about bringing the troops home, all of them. Does anyone actually still believe that Obama is fighting for them? His largest donor is Goldman sachs, the next ten are all large banks and corporations.
RE: Attention!!! - PaulW - 11-29-2011
Income tax is unconstitutional? Don't pay it then. Good luck with that.
Ron Paul has 10% of the Republican vote. He has zero chance. Don't waste your time.
RE: Attention!!! - dmbwest - 11-29-2011
"Don't waste your time." .... or vote for that matter : )
aloha,
pog
RE: Attention!!! - Guest - 11-29-2011
I don't believe that the pursuit of liberty is a waste of time. After he wins Iowa, we can discuss if he has no chance.
It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.
-Samuel Adams
RE: Attention!!! - dwedeking - 11-29-2011
No they ammended the constitution (16th) to allow them to tax you on income.
Doesn't make it right but according to the US they are allowed to do it.
The 1% don't pay tax, they have loop holes. It's the productive people located between the FSA (free **** army) and the 1% that get raped in taxes (income, sales and various fees and permits). But they are also the ones that the 1% have convinced are on their side.
RE: Attention!!! - PaulW - 11-29-2011
"The 1% don't pay tax, they have loop holes"
The 1% pay 38% of the tax. That is a fact. Something you don't hear much about.
RE: Attention!!! - PaulW - 11-29-2011
"It is time for the "ilk" to pay their fair share"
That is my point, they are paying their fair share of the income tax. Much more than their fair share.
And you want them to pay even more? How much more? Give me a number.
RE: Attention!!! - whalesong - 11-29-2011
What good does it do to stay bitter? It only prolongs us from getting better and finding solutions to help those in need!
Yes, the U.S. citizens have arrived at not being able to take care of the poorest because they now have become poor and the middle class are being eliminated one by one
They have never had to experience being poor or be on the receiving end of needing to get food and shelter from other resources to survive.
Now that social programs are now being eliminated because fewer people are working to pay for these services, people are now in a state of confusion because their lifelines are gone.
There are fewer jobs and employers are demanding more work for less pay and no raises insight, only wage cuts.
Our commodities are increasing in price and our state and government officials continue to demand more of our wages, yet our wages stay the same or have been reduced.
For all these reasons and more, we now have "Occupy" as a way to rant and rave our troubles and to have a group that we can identify with and feel like we belong.
We will soon learn how to live with less and we will learn how to be more humble. We will have to find happiness within.
Most will panic because they need materialistic items to make them happy. It's really about having compassion for others in need.
Everyone has heard this saying:
Therefore by the grace of God??
I was looking up the context of a quote I have heard many times and stumbled across some very good thoughts that have really challenged me.
"In the Sixteenth Century, John Bradford made a famous remark which has ever since been held up to us as a model of Christian humility and correct charity and which you saw reflected in the agency quotations I presented. Seeing a beggar in his rags creeping along a wall through a flash of lightning in a stormy night Bradford said: "But for the Grace of God, there go I." Compassion was shown; pity was shown; charity was shown; humility was shown; there was even an acknowledgement that the relative positions of the two could and might have been switched. Yet despite the compassion, despite the pity, despite the charity, despite the humility, how insufferably arrogant! There was still an unbridgeable gulf between Bradford and the beggar. They were not one but two. Whatever might have been, Bradford thought himself Bradford and the beggar a beggar—one high, the other low; one wise, the other misguided; one strong, the other weak; one virtuous, the other depraved.
We do not and cannot take the Bradford approach. It is not just that beggary is the badge of our past and is still all too often the present symbol of social attitudes towards us; although that is at least part of it. But in the broader sense, we are that beggar and he is each of us.
Try to find the divine in all,
We are all one! Aloha...Happy Holidays!
RE: Attention!!! - punaticbychoice - 11-29-2011
Those who say the tax system is fair and proportional are wrong.
RE: Attention!!! - Rob Tucker - 11-30-2011
Interesting topic, keep it Hawaii. Not that hard to do,
Assume the best and ask questions.
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