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RE: TMT Work to Resume Says Ige! - kimo wires - 07-02-2015
So misguided an counter-productive these protesters.
It's gonna happen. It's just too big.
Hypocrites...Give up your truck, walk, quit shopping at Walmart, quit drinking beer.
Protest something that really is hurting the Aina like Pohakuloa.
Big Attention Babies.
RE: TMT Work to Resume Says Ige! - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-02-2015
The Visitor Center bathrooms have been locked.
The water has been turned off.
The protestors have brought up porta-potties. Does anyone know how many for the estimated 200-300 protestors?
The protesters continue to ramble and roam across the upper reaches of the access road and high trails of Mauna Kea, far away from those port-potties (how many?).
Bears in the woods, protestors on the mountain, when you gotta go, you gotta go, so the saying goes.
Westerners don't "get" how the mountain is sacred, and how it needs to be respected.
RE: TMT Work to Resume Says Ige! - rainyjim - 07-02-2015
HOTPE, if you don't know i'm not going to tell you.
RE: TMT Work to Resume Says Ige! - Tink - 07-02-2015
General rule in construction is one porta pottie for every 15 workers, porta pottie on weekly maintenence schedule. so 200 or so would need around 14 of them.
Community begins with Aloha
RE: TMT Work to Resume Says Ige! - leilanidude - 07-02-2015
http://128.171.70.2/-wvhttp-01-/GetOneShot
That is the camera pointed at the visitor center. There are but a small handful of protestors up there.
I don't believe that DLNR or anyone of the other groups should be allowing porta-potties up there since camping is already illegal. they need to enforce the laws.
RE: TMT Work to Resume Says Ige! - HereOnThePrimalEdge - 07-02-2015
Here's the story and link:
In the meantime, protestors who call themselves Aloha ‘Aina advocates brought in their own portable bathrooms and have opened them to everyone. Protesters say it has been very well-received by visitors.
“It makes me happy to see them in line and chanting Ku Kia'i Mauna, but it's a good outreach for us and we're showing that our stance and our issue at this time is only with TMT. We're not wishing to create any pilikia with anybody else -- including the tourists.
The safety of the mountain is of utmost importance and if we don't have bathrooms for the hundreds of tourists that go up there - they gotta go somewhere and we don't want them doing that on the Mauna.
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/29458679/mauna-kea-summit-road-expected-to-remain-closed-until-early-next-week
RE: TMT Work to Resume Says Ige! - kalakoa - 07-02-2015
http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/news/local-news/land-board-approves-fines-lava-tour-company
fines for entering a closed area and engaging in commercial activities in a reserve without a special use permit
I'm sure someone will explain how this is totally different, can't possibly compare, etc.
RE: TMT Work to Resume Says Ige! - faroutsider - 07-02-2015
The mountain Is totally capable of assimilating non-violent Hawaiian waste. It probably wants it. And likes it. What normal white grown man who has owned multiple properties among us hasn't marveled in how healthy and gratifying it is to take a whiz in the backyard of newly acquired property? Yet the protectors compromise and it goes unnoticed. Typical.
RE: TMT Work to Resume Says Ige! - PunaMauka2 - 07-02-2015
it's the glaring double standard among a list of other ironies and hypocrisy, faroutsider. nothing to do with whose shi-shi may actually be a desecration and whose might be a sacrament to the mauna.
RE: TMT Work to Resume Says Ige! - MarkP - 07-02-2015
In a wetter environment waste would decompose and you would never know it was there although if everyone pooped in the same place that spot would get pretty rank for a while. However the summit is a desert. Throughout the deserts of the world researchers are able to determine what people ate hundreds of years ago because of little piles of dehydrated poop that never decomposed. Also, I remember a few years ago when some contractors working near a heiau relieved themselves nearby. The crap really hit the fan then. So if the entire mountain is sacred....