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RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - HiloJulie - 01-18-2025
"They can even call it a Mail Park if they want!"
So, let me look into the future here:
In a few years from now and lets just pretend for the moment that HPPOA wins this lawsuit, and the mailboxes are left to stand.
Then, the County comes along, after bilking the taxpayers out of 50 plus million to build a proposed park in HPP, on one of the 4 - 20 acre sites and assuming some do gooders do not tie up the construction of this proposed park, thus bilking the taxpayers out of even more money but imagine the Grand Opening of this proposed new park and the then Mayor pulls off the big sheet covering the big new sign to great fanfare:
WELCOME TO
"THE HAWAIIAN PARADISE PARK PARK AND MAIL PARK"
(I can't even imagine what the signs directing people to the parking lot will say!)
Ok then, I’m just joking! It’s a joke!
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - TomK - 01-18-2025
My solution takes in a bit of other country's solutions. Keep the mailboxes where they are (why move them? - don't they have squatter's rights by now?), but if you don't want to drive to them, those whose whole life seems to only exist due to HPPOA and mailboxes form a version of the park-and-ride system we see elsewhere. You get a free return ride to your mailbox but must listen to the driver go on and on, sometimes condescendingly, sometimes not if you're lucky, but it's free. Tipping optional. I call it:
"THE HAWAIIAN PARADISE PARK AND HARK RIDE PARK AND MAIL PARK"
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - leilanidude - 01-18-2025
(01-18-2025, 02:56 AM)Patricia Wrote: BTW there is no such thing as "mail parks." You can Google it. The only reference you will find has to do with HPPOA. The true definition of what are installed on HPPOA's parcels is:
"A group of CBUs (Cluster Box Units) are simply called "cluster mailboxes";"
I beg to differ:
A "mail park" refers to a designated area where a mail carrier can park their vehicle while delivering mail, typically in a situation where they need to walk to multiple mailboxes along a street or in a particular neighborhood, essentially "parking" their vehicle in a central location to access all the mailboxes within walking distance; sometimes also called a "park and loop" delivery method.
Key points about mail parks:
Purpose:
To allow mail carriers to efficiently deliver mail by minimizing the need to drive short distances repeatedly between individual mailboxes.
Location:
Usually located on a street with a good concentration of mailboxes, allowing the carrier to easily walk to each one.
Delivery method:
Once parked, the carrier will walk along the street, delivering mail to each mailbox before returning to the vehicle.
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - TomK - 01-18-2025
(01-18-2025, 03:40 PM)leilanidude Wrote: A "mail park" refers to a designated area where a mail carrier can park their vehicle while delivering mail, typically in a situation where they need to walk to multiple mailboxes along a street or in a particular neighborhood, essentially "parking" their vehicle in a central location to access all the mailboxes within walking distance; sometimes also called a "park and loop" delivery method.
Key points about mail parks:
Purpose:
To allow mail carriers to efficiently deliver mail by minimizing the need to drive short distances repeatedly between individual mailboxes.
Location:
Usually located on a street with a good concentration of mailboxes, allowing the carrier to easily walk to each one.
Delivery method:
Once parked, the carrier will walk along the street, delivering mail to each mailbox before returning to the vehicle.
This is riveting stuff. Please keep going. I want to get to the bit when you befriend an AI dog after a tire is punctured, but I assume that's a few episodes away.
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - HiloJulie - 01-18-2025
"This is riveting stuff."
I agree Tom! I for one am at the edge of my seat in anticipation of the next episode!
"...befriend an AI dog after a tire is punctured..."
A word of caution, if that AI dog is anything like my Barney, he no doubt has already lifted his leg on all 4 tires and possibly even the spare, so do be careful!
Oh, and I must issue an apology to Obie about the need for speed bumps/humps:
"stop all of the speeders who don't live in HPP."
I should have known that not one HPP resident would EVER speed inside HPP. It all those "others" who do!
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - KPHawaii - 01-18-2025
(01-18-2025, 03:40 PM)leilanidude Wrote:Stop please. You’re making too much sense. Common sense is a lost art.(01-18-2025, 02:56 AM)Patricia Wrote: BTW there is no such thing as "mail parks." You can Google it. The only reference you will find has to do with HPPOA. The true definition of what are installed on HPPOA's parcels is:
"A group of CBUs (Cluster Box Units) are simply called "cluster mailboxes";"
I beg to differ:
A "mail park" refers to a designated area where a mail carrier can park their vehicle while delivering mail, typically in a situation where they need to walk to multiple mailboxes along a street or in a particular neighborhood, essentially "parking" their vehicle in a central location to access all the mailboxes within walking distance; sometimes also called a "park and loop" delivery method.
Key points about mail parks:
Purpose:
To allow mail carriers to efficiently deliver mail by minimizing the need to drive short distances repeatedly between individual mailboxes.
Location:
Usually located on a street with a good concentration of mailboxes, allowing the carrier to easily walk to each one.
Delivery method:
Once parked, the carrier will walk along the street, delivering mail to each mailbox before returning to the vehicle.
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - Obie - 01-18-2025
"Oh, and I must issue an apology to Obie about the need for speed bumps/humps:"
I guess I didn't make myself clear. I was talking about one street, 28th, during the morning commute.
All you need to do is park on 28th and Paradise or 28th and Kaloli. Commuters pull off highway 130 turn left on 28th and then drive like a bat out of hell to beat the traffic on 130 and they merge back onto 130 at Shower where the State has provided them with a dedicated right turn/acceleration lane.
You are also correct that we have a large group of speeders living in HPP.
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - Patricia - 01-18-2025
Did someone say, ages of comments back, that Hawaiian Acres does not require owners to pay mandatory road fees?
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - Obie - 01-18-2025
You already know that's a fact so why ask the question ?
RE: Roads Are Easements Not Planned Communities Or HOAs - leilanidude - 01-18-2025
(01-18-2025, 05:02 PM)TomK Wrote:(01-18-2025, 03:40 PM)leilanidude Wrote: A "mail park" refers to a designated area where a mail carrier can park their vehicle while delivering mail, typically in a situation where they need to walk to multiple mailboxes along a street or in a particular neighborhood, essentially "parking" their vehicle in a central location to access all the mailboxes within walking distance; sometimes also called a "park and loop" delivery method.
Key points about mail parks:
Purpose:
To allow mail carriers to efficiently deliver mail by minimizing the need to drive short distances repeatedly between individual mailboxes.
Location:
Usually located on a street with a good concentration of mailboxes, allowing the carrier to easily walk to each one.
Delivery method:
Once parked, the carrier will walk along the street, delivering mail to each mailbox before returning to the vehicle.
This is riveting stuff. Please keep going. I want to get to the bit when you befriend an AI dog after a tire is punctured, but I assume that's a few episodes away.
TomK, since you seem incapable of paying attention to details anymore as Patricia specifically stated:
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BTW there is no such thing as "mail parks." You can Google it. The only reference you will find has to do with HPPOA.
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I simply proved her wrong. Google "what is a mail park" and what I provided is what one gets.